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Hopes for shutdown resolution fade after Democrats balk at GOP offer
Politico ^ | 11/06/2025 | Jordain Carney

Posted on 11/06/2025 6:50:54 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Senate Majority Leader John Thune is dangling another carrot for Democrats. They still aren’t ready to bite.

In his latest pressure tactic, the South Dakota Republican is teeing up yet another vote to reopen the government Friday, the 38th day of the record-setting shutdown. But this time, he is pledging to swap out the House-passed stopgap bill for a new funding patch, likely into January, along with full-year funding for veterans programs, food aid and more.

“It’s what they asked for,” Thune said Thursday night.

But Democrats, stiffened by their party’s big election wins Tuesday that have papered over rising internal divisions, are expected to block a procedural vote yet again, according to two people granted anonymity to describe caucus dynamics, as well as interviews with several potential Democratic swing votes.

They are intent on forcing President Donald Trump and fellow Republicans to cough up a better deal and finally engage on their central demand — an extension of expiring health insurance subsidies that aren’t definitively addressed in the latest GOP offer.

“Leader Thune isn’t doing himself any favors by not coming to the table,” said Sen. Jacky Rosen (D-Nev.), who has been viewed as a possible swing vote but said she would vote no Friday.

Several other Democrats professed unity coming out of a long lunch meeting Thursday — one of several they’ve held this week as they’ve wrangled over an endgame to the long shutdown.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the No. 2 party leader, said Thursday that Democrats “are as unified as we have ever been,” while adding that “people understand the gravity of the shutdown.”

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KEYWORDS: democrats; republicants
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To: PTBAA
The feckless Republicans are going to let the Democrats drive us into a recession.

Did you ever serve in the military ?
21 posted on 11/06/2025 7:19:34 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I think nuking the filibuster is the Dem’s ultimate goal. They’ll keep it shut down until we finally give in and get rid of the filibuster, and the dems will run riot the next time they are in full control (probably 2028). Open borders, universal basic income, socialized medicine, two new leftist states (PR/DC), and permanent Dem control of congress.


22 posted on 11/06/2025 7:20:07 PM PST by fluffy
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To: MinorityRepublican

From the Griffin Comprehensive Health Care Cost Reform Plan

HOSPITAL EMTALA COST ASSISTANCE

I would allow hospitals collect up to $1,000 per incident of EMTALA service from employers, with payment not in excess of $50 per week per employee concerned being due to any and all EMTALA providers and not for more than 100 weeks after service. Such payments on behalf of an employee would be considered to be a debt of the employee to the employer. Employers could collect back from employees and ex-employees (and require EMTALA incident employees to participate in an employer plan). State and federal garnishment limitation laws would not apply.

EMTALA REFORM

To get care under the EMTALA for yourself (or custodial child), the hospital might require you to
1. pay $100 in cash or by financial organization card accepted at the emergency care facility,
2. present for recording a valid coverage card and appropriate matching ID if and as required to use the coverage card,
3. hand over your valid SNAP card and present a matching valid domestic governmental picture ID,
4. hand over your valid domestic driver’s license,
5. hand over your valid US passport,
6. hand over your operable cellphone whose model is listed by a current regulation issued by a Secretary of HHS, or
7. hand over a valid domestic governmental picture ID of yours and
a matching financial institution statement less than 70 days old showing a domestic governmental or employer direct deposit of at least $150.

Items handed over may be retained by the emergency care facility until retrieved within one month by the responsible party by paying $100, or more, for the care, plus a retrieval fee not exceeding $50 in a manner the facility accepts. Items not timely retrieved may be disposed of in a legally allowable manner.

MEDICAID ER REFORM

Hospitals may require similar requirements to those of EMTALA Reform but with dollar amounts that are 2/5ths as much.

SNAP CARD ER DEBIT

States might be allowed to authorize emergency care facilities to debit SNAP cards within 30 days of service for ER incidents.


23 posted on 11/06/2025 7:21:15 PM PST by Brian Griffin (Trump needs to allow needy military people to get leave/discharges and paid civilian work)
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To: power2
The Dems’ goal is to destroy the Trump Economy.
24 posted on 11/06/2025 7:21:19 PM PST by Chgogal (The NYT is the mouthpiece of the violent left-wing Democrat Party)
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To: PTBAA
The feckless Republicans are going to let the Democrats drive us into a recession.

Yeah? So you want them to cave to the democRats extortion?

25 posted on 11/06/2025 7:21:33 PM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: fluffy
I think nuking the filibuster is the Dem’s ultimate goal.

It will happen.

So let's get the party started.

26 posted on 11/06/2025 7:22:42 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: fluffy

“Some GOPers act as if the Democrats play fair. Their attitude is “if we do away with the filibuster, then that gives the Dems the opportunity to use it when they get the majority, so we MUST keep the filibuster in place so as not to anger the Dems.”

“What these idiots ignore is the Dems have already tried to nuke the filibuster (failed thanks to Sinema and Manchin), but the next time they get the majority they will not fail. The filibuster will be nuked on Day One.

“GOP might as well do away with the filibuster now and do what is right for the nation. THAT will help them in the mid-terms.”


27 posted on 11/06/2025 7:25:28 PM PST by Brian Griffin (Trump needs to allow needy military people to get leave/discharges and paid civilian work)
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To: Brian Griffin
The Democrats are like the Raiders


28 posted on 11/06/2025 7:26:52 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: fluffy

Lumber for a 30x30 two-story house

outside walls

~240’ of 2x6 studs 16” o.c. ~= 180 studs ~= $900
~360’ of 2x6 plates ~= 45 studs ~= $225

inside walls

~120’ of 2x4 studs 16” o.c. ~= 90 studs ~= $350
~120’ of 2x4 plates ~= 15 studs ~= $60

platform framing

24x2 of 2 16’x2”x12” joists [96 16’x2”x12” joists][Note: I-beams would usually be used]
+
4 16’x2”x12” platform ends ~= $3000

subtotal ~$4500

plywood

roof x 30’x30’ ~= 1000 sq. ft. ~= $1,100

floors ~1800 sq. ft. $42 4’x8’x3/4” sheet ~= $2,400

sheathing ~1920 sq. ft. ~= $2,000 [Note: Oriented Strand Board would normally be used]

truss wood

16(1+30/2 24” o.c.) x 70’ ~= 140 2x4 studs ~= $560

wood for house ~= $11,000 total

Compare to ~$20,000/year health insurance and Long Island $10,000/year property tax.

The wealth is in civilized behavior.

Two-legged animals will always be poor.


29 posted on 11/06/2025 7:29:02 PM PST by Brian Griffin (Trump needs to allow needy military people to get leave/discharges and paid civilian work)
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To: power2

The Dems think they have leverage to weaken the Trump movement. They will never settle. If Thune doesn’t gather the Senate to nuke the filibuster & move the agenda Trump’s ability to revive America is gone.


30 posted on 11/06/2025 7:30:15 PM PST by JayGalt (For America!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Flush the Filibusters and all DemonRATS with it.

This is the way.

31 posted on 11/06/2025 7:31:35 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: fluffy

Upper West Side

20 blocks of brown stone about 900 feet long and 30 feet high with 60% coverage.

20*2*900*30*.6

20*900*36

648,000 square feet of brown stone

Park Slope, Brooklyn Heights, Fort Greene, Upper East Side, Upper West Side

3,240,000 square feet of brown stone

about $25 million


32 posted on 11/06/2025 7:34:10 PM PST by Brian Griffin (Trump needs to allow needy military people to get leave/discharges and paid civilian work)
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To: usconservative

Agree. Then go whole hog. They would.


33 posted on 11/06/2025 7:34:45 PM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Brian Griffin

Gonna need some shingles, drywall, plumbing and electrical for that. And nails and screws.

But, yeah, that’s a good lumber pack.


34 posted on 11/06/2025 7:35:23 PM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Do the nuclear option. No more filibuster. Dems wouldn’t have wasted a minute contemplating this.


35 posted on 11/06/2025 7:36:24 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: MinorityRepublican

End the filibuster.

Pay the troops and air traffic controllers.

Pass voting reforms. Trim back welfare programs. They’ll stay trimmed until January 2029 because Trump has the veto.

A Republican Congress can by majority vote allow citizens to renounce their citizenship and avoid the claws of the IRS if an election would soon result in a loss of Republican control.

The Congress can by majority vote dispose of territory of the United States.

A Republican Congress can cast off New York City. That would mean no more federal welfare money to NYC.

A Republican Congress can cede many of the low-income Democratic areas of California back to Mexico unless the Proposition 50 panel adopts a redistricting map prepared by the RNC.

A Republican Congress can sell off pieces of Vandenberg AF Base to billionaires such as Musk and conservative organizations, who can create independent countries.

I believe military bases have been legally severed from the states they were in, just as DC is no longer a part of Maryland. I believe California has no jurisdiction over Vandenberg AF Base, or should I say Afrikaansland, Trumpland, etc.

Red states can turn over their territory for federal open carry ‘bases of freedom’ which can then be made into independent countries.


36 posted on 11/06/2025 7:39:15 PM PST by Brian Griffin (Trump needs to allow needy military people to get leave/discharges and paid civilian work)
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To: fluffy

They will do that anyway.


37 posted on 11/06/2025 7:42:00 PM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: PTBAA


"correctly saying that it is the Republicans fault"


You are obviously on the wrong site...
38 posted on 11/06/2025 7:42:29 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: MinorityRepublican

Thune needs to shut down Schmuck’s Office.


39 posted on 11/06/2025 7:44:17 PM PST by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: PTBAA

Trump knows he is in deep trouble on the economy...


40 posted on 11/06/2025 7:45:22 PM PST by dpetty121263
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