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The Engines of Wealth: From Conquest to Code
Vanity | October 6, 2025 | CIB-173RDABN

Posted on 10/06/2025 1:53:39 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN

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1 posted on 10/06/2025 1:53:39 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN

So you’re anti-technology.


2 posted on 10/06/2025 2:01:02 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Great topic. What do we do to occupy people who could have computers and robots do their work?

How do you build incentives for corporations to include humans in their operations? How do we incentivize savings and increase prosperity for the middle class?

3 posted on 10/06/2025 2:03:28 AM PDT by caddie (Going forward we all need to become Trump, and also Captain Obvious, and Charlie Kirk too. )
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To: ifinnegan

So you’re anti-technology.

No. I am only pointing out the situation as I see it.


4 posted on 10/06/2025 2:25:12 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: caddie

Great topic. What do we do to occupy people who could have computers and robots do their work?


People smarter than me will have to figure it out.


5 posted on 10/06/2025 2:26:46 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Weasley answer.

You’re pushing a Malthusian anti-people and population decrease agenda.

Lika all the Marxists who think there needs to be less people.


6 posted on 10/06/2025 2:30:30 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

You’re pushing a Malthusian anti-people and population decrease agenda.

An observation is not pushing anything.


7 posted on 10/06/2025 2:42:25 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Reader Note:

This essay/commentary is a descriptive analysis of historical and modern patterns, focusing on how humans adapt to change in labor, technology, and society. It is not an endorsement or critique of any ideology, political system, or technology. The observations are meant to explore trends and possible consequences, not to prescribe policy or assign blame. Readers are encouraged to evaluate the ideas presented, not infer motives or labels.


8 posted on 10/06/2025 2:49:22 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN

More weasel words.


9 posted on 10/06/2025 3:19:42 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

And you’re essays suck. They’re empty blather.

They sound good for a precocious sophomore.


10 posted on 10/06/2025 3:23:40 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Great thread. Ignore the trolls.


11 posted on 10/06/2025 3:35:38 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Although, there is an unlimited amount of work that could be done, the age of AI perfected will always ensure that a machine will be doing the work.


12 posted on 10/06/2025 3:55:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Socialism's promises, like a Djinn's wishes to the greedy, lead to punishment when due. )
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To: ifinnegan

Any ideology pushed to limit will always result in a bad situation. For technology, replacing human beungs completely at all levels makes humans superfluous.


13 posted on 10/06/2025 3:56:51 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Socialism's promises, like a Djinn's wishes to the greedy, lead to punishment when due. )
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To: caddie; CIB-173RDABN

” What do we do to occupy people who could have computers and robots do their work? “

As a person who works in AI. I don’t see computers and robots replacing all work. I do see it REDUCES people - probably making it 10% of what was there earlier.

This would be kind of like farming in 1770 to farming in 2020 —> 250 years the number of workers needed was probably reduced by 99%. and it was due to automation and better tools and techniques.

btw, we still need “human in the loop” as AI hallucinates and can be useful for the basic grunt work, but cannot think up the best option. At best it can poll for the best option. Even if you use the random forest algo, the question is how many decision trees? And how can you interpret it vs the machine hallucinating? Finally, it is based on the datasets and is prone to overfitting


14 posted on 10/06/2025 3:58:56 AM PDT by Cronos
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I don't think he is pushing it.

The reduction in birth rates has been happening ever since the early 1800s,

This reduction happened well before computers.

I think short term this will cause problems especially as this shift to automate is very rapid

Think of this as similar to the weavers in the 1700s who suddenly lost their jobs to steam powered looms. That led to the Luddite movement

We will get a rapid shift now. I see this as happening over the next 5 years where white collar jobs get reduced by about 30%, but then bouncing back.

Why am I more optimistic? because I look at the code and look at the petabytes of data and how this all just confuses the models. AI is not "intelligence" but collation and categorization and while more data does improve the information, at a point it degrades the predictive and prescriptive results.

15 posted on 10/06/2025 4:18:56 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: ifinnegan; CIB-173RDABN
You’re pushing a Malthusian anti-people and population decrease agenda.

Oh crap! He isn't pushing an agenda. He is making an observation and then asking where the situation will lead. He poses an important problem. Our civilization is collapsing; and, what he observes may be a multiplier. Evaluating the problems we face is the beginning of an effort to postpone collapse.

16 posted on 10/06/2025 5:35:29 AM PDT by GingisK
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I think you did a bang-up job. Have you read the articles where THIS one is found? It is very profound reading.
17 posted on 10/06/2025 5:37:18 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ifinnegan; CIB-173RDABN
And you’re essays suck. They’re empty blather.

Same thing probably heard prior to the collapse of historical civilizations. You aught to open your mind. You are not the winner of this thread.

18 posted on 10/06/2025 5:40:11 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: CIB-173RDABN

You wrote this?

This is eye-opening stuff. Good ideas.

Well written.


19 posted on 10/06/2025 6:21:00 AM PDT by Red6
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Most stuff in big name magazines is shallow and less insightful nor as original as this.

You did a very good job!


20 posted on 10/06/2025 6:25:03 AM PDT by Red6
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