How Progressives Were Able to Rule the Western Nations: Good intentions, bad results

Vanity | October 2, 2025 | CIB-173RDABN

[CIB-173RDABN]

This was written with the aid of AI. It helped with the research and the editing.

[Hyman Roth]

I would actually title this BAD intentions bad results.

[Uncle Miltie]

Now ask AI whether Progressives could have taken over Europe without allying with muslims and promising them permanent welfare.

[AnonymousConservative]

This is completely wrong though. There was a massive conspiracy, beginning with the hidden domestic surveillance units the conspiracy embedded in our neighborhoods. I have been dealing with them firsthand for over a decade now, and built AmericanStasi.com to show them to everyone.

Don’t think anything you saw, from the migrant flood, to the rigging of elections was innocent. It was not.

[Gay State Conservative]

Good intentions?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

[CIB-173RDABN]

ABSOLUTELY NOT!
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That is your opinion, but it does not change the facts.

[Varda]

Exactly. They fooled a lot of people into believeing that they had good intentions by what they said.
People refused to judge them by what they did.

PS- back in the 1960’s , hippies used to walk around campus carrying Mao’s little black book. The claimed to be “against the establishment”. It still amazes me that so many interpreted that to mean, against any establishment. They were never against communist establishments and still aren’t.

[CIB-173RDABN]

Could Progressives Have Taken Over Europe Without Muslim Immigration and Welfare Promises?

The short answer is yes — but not to the same extent or permanence.

Progressives were already well-entrenched in post-war Europe through institutions: universities, bureaucracies, unions, and media. The welfare state, born from the ashes of WWII, gave Progressives both moral legitimacy (“we care for all”) and institutional power (vast government agencies administering redistribution). This ensured a baseline of influence without immigration.

However, the demographic decline of native Europeans created a problem: fewer workers, more retirees, and a shrinking tax base. Without large-scale immigration, the welfare model would have collapsed sooner. Muslim immigration offered Progressives a twofold solution:

Demographic Reinforcement: New populations to tax and employ, offsetting aging natives.

Political Clientele: By extending welfare and special protections, Progressives created a reliable voting bloc resistant to conservative or nationalist appeals.

The trade-off was profound. In promising permanent welfare and cultural accommodation, Progressives locked themselves into an alliance where criticism of Islam or migration policy became taboo. In effect, immigration plus welfare transformed Progressive influence from a dominant ideology into a hegemonic system — one shielded from dissent by accusations of racism or intolerance.

So, could Progressives have ruled without Muslims and welfare promises? Yes, but shakily. They would have held cultural and bureaucratic power but struggled against demographic collapse and fiscal strain. The Muslim-welfare alliance gave Progressives not just dominance but durability — at the cost of creating long-term cultural fractures.

[equaviator]

Nowhere does it mention democrats or the Democrat party.

[Gay State Conservative]

I’ve lived my entire life in Massachusetts. I,better than most,know exactly what American Maoists have been up to over the last 60+ years.

[motor_racer]

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.

Alexis de Tocqueville

[central_va]

I am not reading your stupid screed because of the title. It should have been:

“How Progressives Were Able to Ruin the Western Nations: Bad Intentions, Disastrous Results“

FAIL

[CIB-173RDABN]

Nowhere does it mention democrats or the Democrat party.
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What ideology does the Democrat party follow?

There was no need to name them since they are just part of the system, not the entire system. I was describing the system that is the driving force.

[the_Watchman]

AI tends to be skewed towards the liberals. Thus, the presumption that they had good intentions.

Progressives believe that the rights of people come from the state. Therefore, they can be curtailed for the “good” of all.

Our founders believed that the rights of the people come from God and are not to be abrogated.

[philman_36]

Your AI sucks.
A different AI analysis...
Progressivism was flawed from the outset.
Elitist and anti-democratic tendencies
Contempt for traditional politics.
Mistrust of the public.
Inability to sustain reform.

Foundational racism and eugenics
Scientific racism
Compulsory sterilization laws.
Exclusionary immigration policies.
Suppression of Black voting rights.

Incoherent and contradictory ideology
Naive view of human nature.
Contradictory goals.
Ignoring unintended consequences.

The Errors of Progressivism Dec. 2020

Progressivism, as understood in the last several centuries, originated in the thought of the Prussian philosopher, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (1770-1831) and his contemporary, Johann Gottlieb Fichte (1762-1814). Snip... It would be nearly impossible to exaggerate how quickly the cycle of thesis-antithesis-synthesis—given the shorthand of “progress” and its advocates “progressives” —pervaded Germanic thought in the nineteenth century. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels especially coopted the idea. Progressivism was flawed from its start.
As I said, your AI SUCKS.

[CIB-173RDABN]

I am not reading your stupid screed because of the title.

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Good intentions bad results. I guess you have a problem with admitting that the movement began with good intentions.

Without understanding the beginning of the progressive movement and how it build the “machine” to keep it going how are you going to know how to dismantle it and put things back on the path you want it to be?

All the essay does is explains how the machine works and why it fails.

[central_va]

Progressives, Marxists, anarchists and degenerates of the early 20 th century had mal intent. So your screed is predicated on a falsehood.

[Rlsau1]

The best example of the left ascending and the resulting diminishing of everything else is California, imho. The contrast between the Republicans in control and the slow deterioration as the left gained control is a classic example of the hubris and incompetence of the left. I have a good friend who likes to say, “Not all democrats are communists, but in today’s America all communists are democrats.”

[equaviator]

“the system that is the driving force.”

The “driving force” of what?

[philman_36]

Without understanding the beginning of the progressive movement...
Yet you fail to do that in your simple blurb.

Progressivism was born in the late 19th and early 20th centuries...

You and your AI don't even explain the founders of the progressive movement and without knowing WHO created the ideology (which I did in one short snippet) there is no understanding.