Posted on 09/26/2025 6:17:29 AM PDT by marktwain
The incident happened about 1:45 a.m. on Friday, 12 September 2025, in Grand Prairie, Texas. Grand Prairie is midway between Fort Worth and Dallas, on the east side of Arlington. Police officers of the Grand Prairie Police Department went to the wrong address for a disturbance call. Officers said they knocked on the door of a Holly Hills Drive home for about five minutes.
The home-renter, Thomas Simpson, a husband and father, said he did not know what was going on. He suspected criminal activity. He exited the house into the garage, then opened the garage door to investigate the situation. He was armed with a pistol.
Simpson told FOX 4 officers never announced themselves, and he thought they were criminals at first.
Grand Prairie police dispute what happened. From nbcdfw.com:
When officers arrived, police said they knocked on the door for about five minutes from a “well illuminated area.” It was then that police said a man came out of the garage and “took an aggressive firing stance and pointed a firearm at officers.”
“Fearing for their lives,” police said, the officers shot at the person and hit him at least once in the leg.
Grand Prairie Police said the man’s injury was not severe and that he walked unassisted to an ambulance. The man was taken to an area hospital, treated and released.
Fortunately, the bullet did not hit bone, but passed through the fleshy upper part of the leg on the outside between the hip and the
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“You missed the whole “wrong address” thing.”
Nope, didn’t. If the guy was not unlawful, and had come to the door to get the people identified and talk about the address, they would have gone on their merry way to the correct address hopefully. He wouldn’t have had to come out of a concealed entrance with a gun displayed which made stupid times 100.
Years ago I sold a car to a guy for cash, filled out a bill of sale, and took the money. He drove it away. About three years later I got a call from the cops at around 2 a.m. telling me my car had been involved in a robbery. So I told them it was not mine and hasn’t been for a few years. They checked the information and told me they were sorry they had disturbed me. Didn’t try to BS them, didn’t tell them where to put the car, and they wished me a good night and later found the car ditched and I told them to take it. I had already sold it. No muss, no fuss.
wy69
There’s nothing unlawful about carrying a firearm on your own property.
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“Are you an American?”
Are you?
I’m possibly more American than most you know. But I’m not moronic enough to have cops at my doorstep, knocking for 5 minutes, and be stupid enough to come out of an opening garage door with a gun displayed. That will get you shot on most occasions. They have a right to protect themselves. Even from stupid.
wy69
“There’s nothing unlawful about carrying a firearm on your own property.”
Second amendment rights can offer you the chance to carry a weapon on your property if at least for stand your ground alone. But even with stand your ground you have to prove there is going to be imminent danger. A few cops knocking on a door requesting someone to answer it, I don’t think fills the equation. And coming out a raising garage door displaying the weapon when it wasn’t necessary is not real bright.
wy69
SWAT had a habit of doing this.
The cops should consult a local pizza delivery guy if they are unable to figure out the address.
They have NO right to be at a house not listed on their warrant. Their very presence was unlawful.
Worse, they were skulking around in the dark like the home-invading criminals that they are, and deserve to be treated as such.
What they DESERVE is imprisonment for trespassing, assault with a deadly weapon, malicious wounding, attempted murder, and divers other charges.
What they WILL GET is a commendation and a promotion. Because the entire policing profession is institutionally corrupt.
IDIOTS!
They have a right to protect themselves.
They have NO right to be at a house not listed on their warrant. Their very presence was unlawful.
The police were not skulking. They were at or near the front door.
They police did not have a warrant. They were responding to a disturbance call, so they did not know exactly what they were facing.
Police have a tough job. Situations like this are very rare, which is why they make the news.
This creates a perception they are more common than they are.
The cops can be given a certain address that was correctly conveyed but the person that they were looking for was never at that address to begin with and never even lived there. So you have two possible sources of confusion. The second is simply mixing up numbers and locations...you think you are at 52 baker street when you were really at 58 baker street. The 1st is the scenario I listed at the top of the post.
Both scenarios have gotten people killed. The second scenario is one that cops at the scene should have no excuse for. The 1st is a little more problematic, a whole info/informant and warrant issuing judge systemic cluster fark!
Don’t mess with Texas!
“They have NO right to be at a house not listed on their warrant. Their very presence was unlawful.”
It is not unlawful for law enforcement to request entry into a house believed to be harboring a criminal or criminal activities. And the article didn’t say why they went to that address or what was on the warrant. That’s what police do. Would you try to take care of crime yourself and do you have another way? And if you knew the hoops having to be jumped through and the people involved with getting a warrant, you might not be so limited in who you are blaming for this.
“Worse, they were skulking around in the dark like the home-invading criminals that they are, and deserve to be treated as such.”
They approached the front door and rang or knocked for 5 minutes. Have you got a more peaceful and lawful way to request entry or talk to the inhabitants than going to the front door and knocking?
“What they DESERVE is imprisonment for trespassing, assault with a deadly weapon, malicious wounding, attempted murder, and divers other charges.”
In Texas, police invasion of private property is largely illegal without a warrant, a resident’s consent, or the presence of exigent circumstances like preventing imminent danger or the destruction of evidence. A warrant must have probable cause, detail the property and items to be searched, and be issued by a judge. Evidence seized during a warrantless, non-consensual, or non-exigent search may be inadmissible under the exclusionary rule. They had a warrant, they were legal. He came out of seclusion displaying a weapon and brandished it assuming a posture the police interpreted as aggressive when all he had to do was attend to the front door and the whole problem would have been dissolved. They’d have found out the warrant was not for the right address and gone away. But he had to do something stupid and it cost him.
“Because the entire policing profession is institutionally corrupt.”
Any more corrupt than the criminals? If you have a better way to control the murders, rapes and other violent crimes in our country, please step forward and present it as you will become a great hero to the all of us. But right now this is what we have, this is what we use and this is what the country expects our law enforcement people to do. But with action sometimes comes errors and this one was an error until he opened the garage door and stepped out with a weapon.
wy69
It's getting hard to tell the difference. At least with the private-sector criminals, I can defend myself ... Notice that the public-sector criminals want to put you in prison when you defend yourself against them.
“At least with the private-sector criminals, I can defend myself...”
No you can’t. If it had been a public criminal that wanted you they would have just burned the house down and shot you when you came out. They wouldn’t have waited 5 minutes knocking. Or they would have just waited until you came out in the morning and taken out the wall with bullets. They have time on their hands.
There are times when mistakes are made. But if the guy had just used his head and not come out of an opening garage door displaying a weapon, he would have answered he door, and he would be alive today.
And even the layout of the story is in question to me as the cops were going into a disturbance call. What do they need a warrant for? And why if they wanted him, would they waste the time on a warrant. There’s more to this story than what appears and it was written to appear to make the cops look bad. Too many obvious questions. This reminds me of the girl in Scotland that was being harassed by a muslim. It was a false story set up by an activist to make the muslim, never identified as one, look bad. Don’t be taken so easy.
wy69
Can't defend against a private-sector criminal?
That's easily the stupidest thing I have ever seen posted on this forum. Your entire response is the babbling of a meth addict suffering a malaria fever.
Go away ...
And once again we see why the police should be accompanied by a pizza delivery boy on any call.
That is something.
“Can’t defend against a private-sector criminal?”
Tell them that in Chicago or New York, or Atlanta, where it happens every day.
According to Pew Research in 2023, 8 in 10 deaths were accounted to gun violence. Currently, the states with the highest murder rates according to recent reports are Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, New Mexico, and Tennessee. And it isn’t just listed to murder but also gun violence concerning robbery and muggings. And you never hear about them that much.
See anything in there about suicide? Those are just crime stats. And that list doesn’t include the drive bye shootings In Chicago, alone, on the weekend of Aug 28, at least six people are dead, including a child, and 27 others were wounded in shootings across Chicago during the weekend, according to police.
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-weekend-shootings-aug-22-to-25/
And to be honest, I am always amazed with people telling me they can protect themselves against a group of people they have never seen, don’t know anything about, and don’t know their capacity. If someone wants you, they will get you unless you wish to give up your current life and leave everything behind to hide. They do that now with the witness protection program. And it isn’t always perfect.
And your entire response is that of a uneducated, unresearched, fool that has no idea of the real world. You’re right, I am going to go away. There’s no sense trying to help a fool.
wy69
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