October 7th: The Greatest Security Failure in Israeli History — And the Left’s Fingerprints Are All Over It. October 7th: The Bloody Price of Leftist Chaos.

Just sayin' ^ | 09.21.25

[Words Matter]

“Thanks”, Soros...

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Charlie Kirk has something to say about October 7th:

Days later, during an October 12, 2023, appearance on the Patrick Bet David Podcast, Kirk questioned how Israel's vaunted security failed so catastrophically.

"I've been to Israel many times; the whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe.

"I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go ten feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier. The whole country is surveilled. Let me just go through this. We don't talk about Israeli politics very often and most Americans don't know this. In the last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.

"I'm not willing to go so far to say Netanyahu knew, or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand-down order? Was there a stand-down order?

[Liz]

FTA——Netanyahu made what in hindsight was a tragically generous bet: that gestures—like increased aid, work permits for Gazans, and efforts to avoid escalation—would keep Hamas quiet. Netanyahu placed his faith in deterrence, in economic incentives, in digital surveillance over boots-on-the-ground human intel.

It was a fatal miscalculation—captured Nukhba terrorists openly admitted Hamas saw Israel tearing itself apart, and they chose that exact moment to strike.

[Words Matter]

Charlie was tlright. Quote:

"Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead".

[Words Matter]

We all ignore "liz" garbage.

[rktman]

1. 9/10
2. 9/12 x 2
3. 10/7

[E. Pluribus Unum]

My gut feeling is that being right about October 7th is what got Charlie killed.

Nothing we have been told about the assassination makes any sense, beginning with the conveniently planted rifle complete with transifa slogans. And a 30-06 bullet through the neck would have practically taken Charlie’s head off. It looks like a much smaller caliber to me. And the weird “my love” text to his boyfriend/girlfriend/whatever seems totally fake.

[faithhopecharity]

you might want to check all the foreign money that (apparently is STILL being allowed to) flood into Israel...foreign money seeking to destablize the government (like Bibi or not), weaken society (especially in the educational and mass media influence sectors), and basically weaken the nation and its defense readiness.

It is same in USA (and a lot of the money is from the same evil sources like SorozNazi and Qatar and yes, some EuroNazi elements, alas!)

[Captainpaintball]

Charlie was (tl?)right. Quote:

""I've been to Israel many times; the whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe."

I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go ten feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier. The whole country is surveilled. Let me just go through this. We don't talk about Israeli politics very often and most Americans don't know this. In the last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war, it's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, he said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets, that's all gone. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead. "I'm not willing to go so far to say Netanyahu knew, or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand-down order? Was there a stand-down order? "Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel is the size of New Jersey, when I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it was 45 minutes. For six hours, they're live-streaming the killing of Jews. Did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate non-conspiracy question. "The whole country is the IDF, and you're trying to tell me that they're going to concerts and kibbutzim and schools for six hours?"

"It's possible that the Netanyahu government was double-crossed by bad agents, okay? That's dark, but it's not as dark as what we're talking about, okay. Another aspect is that Netanyahu might have traitors in his government, like legitimate traitors that infiltrated. I was texting with some senior people in the IDF, and they said, 'Charlie, can't say too much, but let's just say the same problem you have with the left in America we have here in Israel.' So there's something to think about. Just something to thing about, right? Is that maybe there are some people within those intel agencies that aren't as sympathetic. "Or maybe, Patrick, maybe they might have gotten a tip, they might've gotten whispers, but no one thought it would be 1,200 Jews dead. That's a potential, right, because here's the essence of it. The essence is this. This is the closest thing to the Holocaust that any of us have lived through. But the fact is now Bibi and the Israeli hard-right government has a mandate. "I've got to be careful the way I say this, they're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. And I don't use that term lightly, okay? They're talking about basically removing 2.5 million people from there. And honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge. They do. This idea that they need to have a truce or a peace treaty, that's morally crap after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets. But there are some serious questions here, Patrick. And let me tell you, my pattern recognition over the last five years has become pretty sharp. COVID, Maui fires, Epstein. When I see a story and it doesn't click, our guts are usually right."

[bobbo666]

They disarmed their people, that is all yah need to know. Once that is accomplished any little TWOT could have called over the fence and said : “C’mon, the sheep are ready.”

[Words Matter]

Yes. Those that give to b’Tselem...

[ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton]

To me it seems possible that this attack was allowed to happen and Netanyahu was in on it. Now without the war Netanyahu is totally without power and perhaps in jail. So we’re allies with Netanyahu who has to keep the war going and zelinsky who Pockets 50 million dollars a month thanks to the war. No way either of them want peace.

[MinorityRepublican]

2023 Israeli judicial reform protests

[Liz]

Qatar has very strong diplomatic relations w/ the US underscore the complex dynamics of its relationship with Israel, as the U.S. sometimes relies on Qatar to facilitate diplomatic initiatives.

The unprovoked Israeli airstrike in Doha on September 9, 2025, prompted a meeting between Donald Trump and Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani.

On September 9, 2025, Israel pre-emptorily launched an airstrike in Doha, Qatar, knowing full well the extent of US foreign policy in the region.

The Israelis were apparently unconcerned that the bombing incident risked undermining US-backed ceasefire efforts and escalated regional tensions, and horrifically undermined American families’ safety and security.

The Israeli attack, marshaled by Israel’s Netanyahu, caused a diplomatic crisis, with Qatar’s’Foreign Minister describing it as Israeli “state terrorism” and Qatar refuting claims that it had been pre-informed.

In response, the Qatari Prime Minister traveled to the US to meet with U.S. officials. On September 12, 2025, Donald Trump dined with the Qatari Prime Minister and US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff in New York.

Trump had previously expressed frustration with Israel’s unilateral action, and its never-ending bombing spree with a double impact: (a) to increase Netanyahu’s sagging popularity and (b) to undermine US foreign policy.

Trump assured Qatar that such an attack would not happen again.

The Prime Minister’s visit also included a meeting at the White House with Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, where they discussed the strike and future cooperation.

[MinorityRepublican]

To me it seems possible that this attack was allowed to happen and Netanyahu was in on it.

Possibly. Netanyahu may have thought it was a small raid. They underestimated Hamas.

Or Israel was distracted. The country was divided on October 6, 2023. They weren't paying attention.

[Navy Patriot]

So there are forces that can defeat the Israeli Government's duty, charge and desire to protect Jews, and those same forces can defeat detection and exposure by Mossad!

Sadly those forces have only been exposed in the last few days, and they are ...

Liberal Jews, ...

key descriptor: Liberal.

[Liz]

A staunch Israel supporter, martyred Charlie Kirk felt Netanyahu was a “destructive force”. Kirk was
appalled by what was happening in Gaza, with his beloved Israel letting starvation of children occur.

Kirk, above all, believed self-serving Netanyahu was “using” the United States to
prosecute Bibi’s own relentless wars, waged for the benefit of Israel, and Israel alone.

Charlie Kirk also warned us not to get caught in the notion that the choice is between
<><>supporting the war policies of Prime Minister Netanyahu
<><>and that of being a Jew-Hating Anti-Semite...

Maccabit Meyer Aunt Of the “Jewish Gaza Hostages” poignantly Speaks To PM Netanyahu:
“Where is your heart and conscience? How are you not afraid we’ll get back 48 Jewish coffins—
maybe fewer because some Jews will disappear?”

[jjotto]

Gadi Taub. Whole podcast is great, but skip to about minute 10 to start the short version:

https://youtu.be/3CcSbPtShqI?si=ybWYeFkwxXH1Q1Ag

“THE IDF AND SHIN BET COVER-UP”

[Words Matter]

Abstract

In the center of the Middle East, surrounded by millions of hostile Arabs, the best way to guarantee its existence Israel must project an image of an invincible power to deter its enemies from attacking. This is the main component of Israel’s security concept. However, On October 7, 2023, it seemed that Israel lost its deterrence when Hamas, joined by other Islamic terror groups, launched a surprise attack, including firing rockets, brutal raids of fighters, and kidnapping hostages.
Although Israel has a strong and sophisticated army with technological superiority, the Islamic organizations felt confident launching the attack. This paper aims to explore the factors that encouraged Hamas and the Islamic resistance front to go on the attack. The October 7th attack came after ten turbulent months characterized by civil protests, strikes, and demonstrations of thousands of Israelis who struggled against the intentions of Netanyahu’s government to change the Judicial system. A study of public statements given by Islamic leaders can shed light on the mindset of radical Islamic organizations.
The central claim is that Hamas and the Islamic groups perceived the civil struggle in Israel as the fulfillment of the religious vision written in the Quran. The conclusion is that Israel’s military power is not enough to maintain deterrence and project power toward Islamic organizations, but social cohesion is needed, too.
The Judicial Reform in Israel: the Spark that Led to the October 7th War