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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTswW9dg07A

I link to the video in the third paragraph but here it is again.

Charlie Kirk Debates Bernie Sanders’ Press Secretary on Systemic Racism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTswW9dg07A

I think that I'm doing what many other people have been doing over the past week and will continue to do so. Kirk's debates are amazing to watch. Its no wonder they wanted him gone.

1 posted on 09/18/2025 11:12:48 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: fella; Glad2bnuts; ebshumidors; nicollo; Kalam; IYAS9YAS; laplata; mvonfr; ...

Ping to just my ping list, maybe you might have similar thoughts.

So it is said (I’m still having more new thoughts) It would be good to watch more than just the tiny clips referenced and also more than just the 5 minutes generally highlighted.

But its an embedded topic and it needed to be highlighted separately.


2 posted on 09/18/2025 11:15:55 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Slavey became so common for European colonial empires. I should add that slavery had been all but eliminated in Europe thanks to the power of Christianity. However larger more centralized monarchies reintroduced slavery in their colonies or permitted their overseas vassals to practice it because it was beneficial.

Slavery always happens because wealthy connected legal bodies recognize they can make even more money by controlling the human side of labor as property.

Its one of the legitimate reasons for having legal restrictions by government against slavery and its practices.


3 posted on 09/18/2025 11:21:08 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: ProgressingAmerica

You keep reiterating that “the 3/5ths compromise was anti-slavery.” No, it wasn’t. It also wasn’t pro-slavery (although it’s been heavily criticized by people horrified by slavery). What was it actually? It was, duh, a compromise.

The issue was how to compute House of Representatives memberships for states where many of the residents were slaves. The slave states wanted the slaves counted in full. Agreeing to that solution would have been pro-slavery.

The free states pointed out that, under the slave states’ own laws, slaves were property. They asked “Should our horses and cows be counted?” They wanted the slaves excluded. That solution would have been anti-slavery.

What emerged was the well-known 3/5 rule. It was a compromise. Neither side got everything it wanted. It’s misleading to focus on the rejection of the complete pro-slavery position without also acknowledging the rejection of the complete anti-slavery position.


4 posted on 09/18/2025 11:28:21 AM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: ProgressingAmerica; Eagle Forgotten

The effect of the compromise was ant-slavery because a whole free black person or indentured servant could be added to the census as Northern states did for representation. Southern states could add only six tenths of a person for a slave.


7 posted on 09/18/2025 12:10:06 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

“. It is common practice for those who dishonestly wield slavery as a weapon to take a step back and cite some odd-ball random fact like France abolished slavery in the 1300s or whatever year it was. France abolished white people owning white people; France abolished Frenchies owning Frenchies. “

And omits entirely how “blacks” got to Haiti - brought in by the French as slaves for their plantations on Haiti.


10 posted on 09/18/2025 1:19:17 PM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

bump


12 posted on 09/18/2025 1:47:42 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (RIP, Charlie. Say hi to Andrew Breitbart. God protect your family. Justice for Charlie Kirk!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

📌


14 posted on 09/18/2025 3:50:24 PM PDT by griswold3 (Truth Beauty and Goodness)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

bookmark


16 posted on 09/18/2025 9:42:27 PM PDT by Loud Mime ("The Real Constitution" on Amazon. We are not right wing - we are constitutional centrists.)
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