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The Founding Fathers tried, repeatedly, to cry out to us about their disdain for the king vetoing their laws.

They have my ear, that is for sure.

1 posted on 09/01/2025 3:03:08 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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You ought to consider reading the text of this Constitution though.

Why is that in the text of the Virginia Constitution?


2 posted on 09/01/2025 3:10:18 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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Good post, thx PA


3 posted on 09/01/2025 3:19:11 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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“These things are good for me, the King, and what you need is irrelevant so your laws are irrelevant and vetoed”

Sort of like what’s happening now in the UK, where the citizens want to stop illegal aliens from invading their country, but the king (Prime Minister) veto’s it.

The political leaders of the UK are against it’s own people. That is a fact.


4 posted on 09/01/2025 3:31:14 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

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6 posted on 09/01/2025 4:02:09 AM PDT by DocRock
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That is very impressive. I confess I was unaware of it.
Very strange, then, that, after independence, slavery was not banned either in the US or Virginia.

Not for 2 generations and, in part, took a very bloody war to do so.


8 posted on 09/01/2025 4:27:12 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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We need to overthrow courts acting like King by “putting a negative” (vetoing) our laws and directives of a legally elected President.

This truly is a communist plot. The communists want to weaken America. A main cause of revolutions is lack of justice in the courts and legal system.

11 posted on 09/01/2025 6:38:27 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free ( )
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12 posted on 09/01/2025 6:50:04 AM PDT by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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13 posted on 09/01/2025 6:51:09 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: ProgressingAmerica

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14 posted on 09/01/2025 7:01:12 AM PDT by joshua c
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"those very negroes whom, by an inhuman use of his negative, he hath refused us permission to exclude by Law"

This is a piece of supporting evidence for the fact that white people of that era did *NOT* want black people in their society. Many will read that as a rejection of slavery, but the wording implies it is a rejection of black people, which fits with other things i've read over the years.

"but when we consider that it greatly retards the Settlement of the Colonies with more useful Inhabitants,"

"More useful inhabitants"? Do they mean white people? Other Europeans? More supporting evidence that they did not want black people among them.

Because the king kept interfering with early American abolitionism,...

You can read it that way, and for some people of that era, this is likely true, but for most, I think, the great objection is to bringing black people into their communities. They didn't want them.

I've read that a lot of the people of that era considered them "evil", "Unclean" "of the devil", and "punished by God". People were very religious back then, and they were prone to believing all sorts of things that we wouldn't accept nowadays.

You only want to look at Pollyanna versions of history. You ignore anything that is ugly.

I wish I could, but I have much experience with human nature, and it is usually a mistake to impart noble motives to people when so much of what they do indicates they will be a snake if given half a chance.

17 posted on 09/01/2025 7:21:17 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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There are two interesting items in the 1776 Constitution for the State of Virginia. The first one is in the second paragraph and it reads as follows:

Whereas George the Third, King of Great Britain and Ireland, and Elector of Hanover, heretofore intrusted with the exercise of the Kingly Office in this Government, hath endeavoured to pervert the same into a detestable and insupportable Tyranny; by putting his negative on laws the most wholesome and necessary for the publick good;

That is in the Preamble, not the text of the Constitution as adopted. The Virginia Constitution of 1776 was adopted June 29, 1776, prior to the Declaration of Independence. Virginia declared its independence prior to the DoI.

24 posted on 09/01/2025 6:15:18 PM PDT by woodpusher
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