Posted on 08/20/2025 6:54:48 AM PDT by Red Badger
H-1B crisis: Indian workers face mass green card denials amid PERM ‘sabotage’ blitz
This subject is blowing up all over X (at least in my algorithm).
And I'm really damn tired of them calling me thinking that I am stupid enough to fall for one of their "Microsoft support" scams!
Twenty years ago we were going after Easter European computer hackers with the full force of the law.
We need to be doing the same to these repugnant Indian scammers.
Yes isn’t that a fact. But what is the deal with H1b employees? Will Americans not work for the wages an H1b person will take? I’m nowhere near this loop, so idk, why else would employers be doing this?
PERM: Permanent Labor Certification
A permanent labor certification issued by the Department of Labor (DOL) allows an employer to hire a foreign worker to work permanently in the United States.
My Microsoft office in Eastgate, Bellevue, WA went from a world-wide polyglot culture to a Hindu monoculture in three years.
Should’ve just held meetings in Hindi.
Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.
ROBERT A. HEINLEIN, attributed, Religion in Science Fiction: The Evolution of an Idea and the Extinction of a Genre
The simplest thing to do is to require H-1Bs to be paid at least 20% more than the pay of the average American worker with the degree and years of experience.
There have to be stabilizing barriers to protect American workers against imports of people and things.
City W, its workers and its residents shouldn’t be left to die economically because widgets can be made 1% cheaper in China.
City W, its workers and its residents shouldn’t be left to die economically because widgets can be made 3% cheaper in India.
How much pricing differential benefit should imports have to offer?
The Trump base tariff of 10% seems about right.
The US has certain cost inefficiencies compared to China such as:
1. the PPACA
a. paying more for drugs than other countries
b. unhealthy lifestyles
c. junkie care
2. expensive public schools
3. dysfunctional people on the public dole
4. dysfunctional people filling up prisons
5. welfare, disability and asylum fraud
As for H-1Bs, the cost of US higher education also has to be factored in. There should be an additional percentage to reflect the risk of taking on student debt to get an education. Therefore, I suggest a 20% differential for labor.
The requirement to try to find a qualified American should be done away with. There are always qualified Americans to be had.
If the employer wants a certain technical degree foreigner, the employer should simply be allowed to hire the technical degree foreigner at the 20% differential or more. Technical companies are often in a technology race. They should be able to move fast.
To prevent fraud, either:
1.the number of foreigners hired should be such that the salaries paid to them never exceed the amount of corporate income tax paid by the employer in any of the five past tax years for the employer, or
2. an advance of five years of FICA should be paid for the worker [this would allow start-ups to hire premium quality foreigners].
Similar to gays that only hire other gay people.
“What is the deal with H1-B employees?
“Will Americans not work for the wages an H1b person will take?”
The tech industry is into crazes. Right now, it’s AI.
There is a very limited number of Americans with say a decade of AI experience.
If a new development language ‘catches fire’, a similar situation can occur. Companies crave experienced people, and there simply aren’t enough Americans.
If a new technology-based business model becomes beloved by Wall Street, a similar situation can occur.
There are as many of you know, many cases where employers are not in a race but are trying to minimize labor costs. The way to deal with that would to bar H-1Bs from say coding in C++, Java or Python.
We need to be doing the same to these repugnant Indian scammers.
Lots of great videos on YouTube where they get back at the scammers.
...and demonic, cultish, dependants that will happily take up violence against Americans....
The help lines are likely operated by somebody in India, or Philippines. They are not even physically in the US.
Hopefully foreigners are picking up on the rising tide of resentment growing in the country to their presence here. Americans are slowly waking up to how harmful they are. Come as a tourist if you want, enjoy your stay, then go home.
foreigner I can barely understand
I stopped trying a long time ago. I will simply say...get me someone who speaks English. I’ve had them say...but I speak English. Really? Because I can’t understand you. Okay then, get me someone I can understand. lol
Yesterday and today, I spent at least an hour trying to communicate with some foreigner at a call center. I would have gotten a satisfactory result talking to an American in 15 minutes. Now, I don’t even know if matters will be resolved satisfactorily.
“Once they take over an industry, no “outsiders” will ever be hired”
That’s the plan. And they figure that if we’re weak enough to lay down and take it, then they deserve the jobs. We won, you lost, casper.
Best of all, the EEOC classifies them as Protected Class deserving of special treatment. Win-Win for them! Having never been in the United States, having never been subject to any discrimination, they are automatically Victims of The Evil Americans simply cuz...they are from a foreign country.
Programmers are using AI, which streamlines their job a lot. Thousands of programmers are being laid off because of AI. Now I was a programmer and I would never just throw in AI code. But many do. So I think we are losing the need for bad programmers. Anyway my kids all program and they say lots of people just throw in AI code. So they are useless and will sooner or later lose their jobs.
Anyone can code, few can debug. And my experience so far with coding tools, is that using AI to help debug, can dig an even deeper hole, if you don’t know what it’s doing.
AI doesn’t know the data. I was a programmer for 44 years, 25 at my last employer when I retired Jan 2024. By April, they were asking me to come back. I retired again last month because I saw the work that was coming up.
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