Posted on 07/16/2025 4:50:13 AM PDT by lasereye
Today’s Wall Street Journal carries Alan Dershowitz’s column “The inside scoop on Jeffrey Epstein.” He was Jeffrey Epstein’s lawyer. That’s his opening sentence. He knows the facts. That’s his second sentence. Some of what he knows he can’t disclose because it is privileged (he doesn’t say the privilege is, but I assume attorney-client — the privilege survives the client’s death). That’s the third sentence.
These are the takeaways from the column mixed with a few comments of my own.
• Epstein never created a “client list.” The FBI interviewed alleged victims who named several “clients.” These names have been redacted and the related records sealed. The names specified may or may not be accurate. The names do not include any current officeholders. The courts have also sealed negative information about some of the accusers to protect them.
• President Trump reportedly banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago, long before becoming president. Dershowitz has seen nothing that would suggest anything improper or even questionable with Epstein on Trump’s part.
• Dershowitz expresses “absolutely no doubt” that Epstein never worked for an intelligence agency. “If he had, he would surely have told me and his other lawyers, who would have used that information to get him a better deal.” Epstein was unsatisfied with the plea deal he got.
• I don’t know about that. If Epstein had been exposed as or revealed that he was an Israeli (or some other foreign government’s) intelligence asset, he might have gotten the Jonathan Pollard treatment.
• Dershowitz’s sources in Israel have confirmed to him that Epstein had no connection to Israel.
• Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they? I can hear Carlson’s maniacal laughter.
• Dershowitz attributes “[t]hat false story—recently peddled by Tucker Carlson” to “credible allegations that Robert Maxwell (1923-91), father of Epstein’s former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, worked with the Mossad.”
• I would say that gives Carlson too much credit. I think it more likely that they derive from something akin to the slimy calculations that brought us this.
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If you read up on his background, the guy was a math prodigy. He was taking college math courses in high school and skipped two grades. Also appears to have been something of a music prodigy as well - you don't go to Interlochen without serious talent.
So he appears to have been a very bright guy with numbers, and was very good at impressing people. Sort of tailor made to be an investments guy. One of the parents of a student recommended him to someone at Bear Stearns, and that's how he got his start.
Here's one article that talks about how he got wealthy in more detail, and a quote from one of his former math students:
"Everyone pretty much knew him as brilliant,” said Grossman, who graduated in 1978. “None of us were surprised that when he left Dalton he made a zillion dollars in business.”
https://apnews.com/article/96bc4bdbd240454293888afb1f5bc600
You probably heard that he’s got cancer and doesn’t expect to live much longer. He continues with his daily podcasts.
If there was ANYTHING on Trump it would have been out there ages ago.
The author of this is Scott Johnson. I frequently listen to Scott Adams' podcast and he talks about the Epstein situation a lot. Scott Adams is the creator of the Dilbert comic strip.
Yes, I did hear that, so sad. I loved his comic strip Dilbert. I was a Tina The Tech Writer and he was spot on about the tech industry!
People will just have to get over it and move on.
So, of the list that you posted I will include what I “know” and what I “agree” with. I have actually read the original court files, had a copy of the plea agreement and I have read the original case files that the girls filed to overturn the plea deal back in the late 2000’s. This is all stuff that exists before the case reached worldwide attention in the last 5+ years when exposed by the Miami Herald.
Dersch and many other high powered attys were involved - local and national. Dersch stayed involved in a case the girls filed - not as an active attorney but as an “intervenor.” Dersh knows just about everything. Things were sealed. Dersh has atty-client priveledge, which survives death in the State of Florida.
The term “client list” is just a convenient way of listing Epstein associates - either possibly dirty or innocent. It also refers to flight logs. Trump is not impuned in the files. Billy clinton seems to have difficulties, and the Prince seems pretty dirty. I agree with the following:
• Epstein never created a “client list.” The FBI interviewed alleged victims who named several “clients.” These names have been redacted and the related records sealed. The names specified may or may not be accurate. The names do not include any current officeholders. The courts have also sealed negative information about some of the accusers to protect them.
• President Trump reportedly banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago, long before becoming president. Dershowitz has seen nothing that would suggest anything improper or even questionable with Epstein on Trump’s part.
• Dershowitz expresses “absolutely no doubt” that Epstein never worked for an intelligence agency. “If he had, he would surely have told me and his other lawyers, who would have used that information to get him a better deal.” Epstein was unsatisfied with the plea deal he got.
The idea that Epstein is “undercover” - US or Israel, is due to a statement by the then US Atty for S. Florida - Acosta. Nothing in the files makes this assertion. The discussion and drafting of the plea agreement, as disclosed, is amazing.
It would also “seem” to me that Gilsaine is correct, that the US Atty office in DC (and Acosta but he doesn’t necessarily speak for DC) was willing to give immunity to others than Epstein and this immunity was not local to S. FLorida. Even if I am incorrect, she has a strong arguement. My opinion is based on the Acosta comment that this is not just a “local issue” and that Epstein is “protected.” All of this stuff took an inordiante amount of time, from a rather simple case, to get sorted out.
ADAM
@AdameMedia
JUST IN - Trump triples down and says Democrats’ “new SCAM” is the “Epstein Hoax,” adding that his “PAST” supporters have “bought into this ‘”bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker.”
Wow. Just wow.
https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1945479898056798666
Trump’s statement can be found at the link. He is basically insulting those in his base who still believe in this “scam”.
Trump is actually insulting FReeptards, as he always has and will continue to do successfully.
One would think that the well-to-do people who visited Epstein Island already were well practiced in covering their tracks and not doing anything that would incriminate themselves. For example, by the time Clinton visited the island he knew that there were people looking for evidence to put him in prison. So it's hard to imagine him doing something like get it on with a minor in a place that he didn't have full control of (i.e. making sure there were no cameras).
No young girls lives will be helped here. The clients are old now too.
Better to focus on killing the younger rapists.
Apparently Trump seems to think most of his supporters are stupid and that he can bully them into accepting the closure of the Epstein case. Well he best think again because only about a third of his supporters are that stupid. The rest of us demand transparency and justice.
THAT story line leaves nothing important to be looked into? The ruined lives are just going to stay ruined, so that the people behind all of this get to do it again and again and again?? REALLY????
Well People do what they want but People expect the truth and were promised they would be told the Truth and now Trump is stonewalling and done a 180 on what was promised is all I am saying. I personally want that and many MAGA folks do as well as polls show.
Trump should remember the Truth shall set you free...
Problem is, WE don’t know what we don’t know. If there is a so called list, I trust that Trump is holding it for a good reason. For now. He may be using it as a distraction. We just don’t know.
The well to do would eventually figure a way to take Epstein out themselves to shut down an ongoing blackmail campaign.
By allowing them to continue to “play”, he minimizes the ill will held against him.
Again the Truth shall set Trump free...
Oh, and to your point, I’d think the enticement was too much for them and addled their thinking. Sort of like a drug addict may take unusual risks to get their “fix”.
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