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Does the "big, beautiful bill" eliminate taxes on Social Security?
CBS News ^ | July 07, 2025 | Mary Cunningham

Posted on 07/07/2025 10:59:02 AM PDT by Red Badger

As Congress was approving President Trump's "big, beautiful bill" on Thursday, the Social Security Administration touted the legislation by stating that it "eliminates federal income taxes on Social Security benefits for most beneficiaries."

That claim, which echoes previous promises by Mr. Trump to remove taxes on Social Security, may have come as welcome news for the millions of older and disabled people who depend on the program for income. So does the bill deliver? Not entirely.

In a press release, the SSA said that the tax and spending package, which the president is set to sign into law on Friday, "ensures that nearly 90% of Social Security beneficiaries will no longer pay federal income taxes on their benefits."

That figure draws on a June analysis by the White House's Council of Economic Advisers that said 88% of seniors — or 51.4 million people — on Social Security will pay no tax on their payments under the measure because their deductions would exceed their taxable benefits. More than 70 million Americans collect Social Security benefits, according to the SSA.

The bill "includes the largest tax break in American history for our nation's seniors," CEA said, adding that "the deductions ensure that seniors who earned their Social Security through years of hard work get more money back in their pockets."

Yet while it's true that the bill offers fresh tax relief for some people on Social Security, it is misleading to suggest that the measure does away with taxes on Social Security benefits, policy experts told CBS MoneyWatch. Rather, the bill offers relief by creating a new "bonus" tax deduction for beneficiaries.

"While the deduction does provide some relief for seniors, it's far from completely repealing the tax on their benefits," Garrett Watson, director of policy analysis at the Tax Foundation, a Washington, D.C., think tank, told The Associated Press this week ahead of Congress approving the bill.

The Social Security Administration did not respond to a request for comment. The White House declined to comment.

How does the "big, beautiful bill" impact Social Security?

The bill doesn't eliminate taxes on Social Security, but rather introduces a temporary deduction that beneficiaries can claim to lower their federal income tax. Notably, that deduction applies to all of a senior's income — not just to Social Security benefits.

Bobby Kogan, senior director of federal budget policy at the Center for American Progress, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington, D.C., told CBS MoneyWatch the bill doesn't change the taxation of Social Security benefits. Eliminating taxes on Social Security under the bill was impossible because of a congressional restriction (dubbed the Byrd Rule after late West Virginia Sen. Robert Byrd) that limits what the Senate can include in a reconciliation bill like the Republican budget measure.

What the bill does do is provide a temporary tax deduction of up to $6,000 for seniors aged 65 and older. The tax break is available to people with an adjusted gross incomes of $75,000 or less and $150,000 or less for couples filing jointly. The deduction is set to expire at the end of 2028.

"Each spouse can take the deduction, for a total of $12,000, if both are 65-plus," AARP explains in its analysis of the budget bill. The deduction phases out for people who earn above those amounts.

Social Security recipients under 65 and people above the specified income thresholds are ineligible to claim the new tax deduction. It also won't benefit the many low-income seniors who already pay no federal income tax because they earn too little.

"Boosting the amount that you get to write off when you already get to write off everything does not help you at all," Kogan said.

The Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan policy research group, said in a June report that exempting Social Security benefits from taxation would not change the after-tax income for the bottom 20% of taxpayers, noting that "those taxpayers are already exempt from taxation on their Social Security benefits."

The biggest beneficiaries of the bill will be higher-income seniors, said Martha Shedden, president and co-founder of the National Association of Registered Social Security Analysts, which focuses on Social Security education.

"The people who benefit by definition have to be richer, and people who benefit the most are the richest people," Kogan added.

More pressure on Social Security?

Providing a temporary tax deduction is likely to help some Social Security recipients, but it could also worsen the retirement program's fragile financial state, Kogan said. Social Security is on track to deplete its trust fund by 2034 if Congress does not take action.

"We already have a problem of not enough money going into the trust fund. This bill makes even less money go into the trust fund," he said.

The Penn Wharton Budget Model, a University of Pennsylvania think tank that studies fiscal issues, estimates that eliminating income taxes on Social Security benefits would lower federal revenue by $1.5 trillion over 10 years and increase the federal debt by 7% by 2054.

As the debate continues over how to shore up Social Security while offering tax relief to older Americans, one thing is clear, and perhaps politically unpalatable: cutting benefits. According to a AARP-funded survey from the National Academy of Social Insurance released in January, 85% of Americans think benefits should not be reduced, or that they should be increased, even if it means raising taxes on some or all Americans.

"Virtually all Americans want their Social Security benefits to be preserved and are willing to do what it takes to ensure the program continues to provide meaningful support for future generations," said AARP Chief Public Policy Officer Deb Whitman in a statement after the survey was released.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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To: Red Badger

“We already have a problem of not enough money going into the trust fund. This bill makes even less money go into the trust fund,” he said.

What happened to your “Lockbox”?


21 posted on 07/07/2025 11:17:31 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: Red Badger
It also won't benefit the many low-income seniors who already pay no federal income tax because they earn too little.
"Boosting the amount that you get to write off when you already get to write off everything does not help you at all," Kogan said.

Soooo... you're whining because people who don't pay any will continue to not pay any, and that's a bad thing? Idiot. Just more "hate the rich" class-warfare Marxist rhetoric.

22 posted on 07/07/2025 11:18:11 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Red Badger
The biggest beneficiaries of the bill will be higher-income seniors, said Martha Shedden, president and co-founder of the National Association of Registered Social Security Analysts, which focuses on Social Security education.

How is that? The benefit declines after $150k joint income.

23 posted on 07/07/2025 11:20:11 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Red Badger

Moderately good news for high-income seniors like me. Brings forward the date of the Trust Fund full depletion by a year, at which point all SS benefits drop 20% across the board.


24 posted on 07/07/2025 11:20:14 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: V_TWIN
I assume if you claim standard deduction it does nothing

For a senior that qualifies, it adds $6K to the standard deduction amount.

25 posted on 07/07/2025 11:20:48 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: V_TWIN

> I assume if you claim standard deduction it does nothing <

I’m guessing there will now be two standard deductions, one for seniors and one for everyone else. The senior deduction will be $6000 more.

But the IRS specializes in making bizarre, unfair, and complicated rules. So who knows how it will actually turn out.


26 posted on 07/07/2025 11:20:52 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: 1Old Pro

You have to realize that to a liberal, $150k per year is ‘wealthy’..................


27 posted on 07/07/2025 11:21:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Algore stole it......................


28 posted on 07/07/2025 11:22:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Algore stole it......................


29 posted on 07/07/2025 11:22:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger
You have to realize that to a liberal, $150k per year is ‘wealthy’...

More like middle class. It should be good up to $400k, that's the number they typically use.

30 posted on 07/07/2025 11:23:55 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: V_TWIN

It is on top of the standard deduction.

My first cut look at our numbers is my wife and I (both over 65) will add $12,000 in deductions.

At a marginal federal tax rate of 20% that would save us $2,400 a year in federal taxes.

If I missed anything I am sure some folks here will be quite willing to correct me.


31 posted on 07/07/2025 11:32:38 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: rexthecat

yes it was a rules thing

the senate parliamentarian

so 60 votes are needed to pass it, which means you’d need 7 democrats, good luck with that


32 posted on 07/07/2025 11:33:28 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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To: delta7
In 1983, when the first tax on SS income was passed, the House was 269-164, Dem.
The Senate was 53-46, GOP.

When it came to the budget and taxes, that was all Dems.

For that 1983 SS bill, tons of GOP went with the "no vote" option.
The Senate vote was 58-14. (At least 12 GOP crossed, and about 30 went "no vote"
The House vote was 243-102. (About 60 GOP went "no vote". The media called this "strong bipartisan support".)

And...

The 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act increased the proportion of Social Security benefits subject to taxation, raising the limit to 85% for higher earners. The 1993 Congress was 257-177, Dem. The Senate was 57-43, Dem. Clinton was President.

It barely passed... In the House, it was 218-216, with 42 Dems voting against it. All 174 GOP votes were "nay". Vice President Al Gore broke the 50-50 tie in the Senate, despite 7 Dems voting against it. Again, every GOP voted "nay'.

33 posted on 07/07/2025 11:35:36 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Red Badger

I paid into SS for nearly 50 years. It was not voluntary, but taken out of my pay before I received it. Now that it is my time to collect my payoff for all the years I paid for those before me I am told I must pay tax on that “income”?

Who came up with that, and where do they live?


34 posted on 07/07/2025 11:36:20 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: cgbg

“If I missed anything I am sure some folks here will be quite willing to correct me”

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I know one jackass that will....and thanks for the info.


35 posted on 07/07/2025 11:36:53 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: bk1000

See Post 33.


36 posted on 07/07/2025 11:38:12 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: bk1000

Half of SS contributions are untaxed.


37 posted on 07/07/2025 11:38:14 AM PDT by TexasGator ('i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: bk1000

Thomas “Tip” O’Neill (D) MA served as the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives during the Reagan Presidency.

He’s dead, Jim..................


38 posted on 07/07/2025 11:39:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: bk1000

Biden did in 1983.


39 posted on 07/07/2025 11:41:30 AM PDT by bankwalker (Feminists, like all Marxists, are ungrateful parasites.)
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To: Red Badger
"Providing a temporary tax deduction is likely to help some Social Security recipients, but it could also worsen the retirement program's fragile financial state, Kogan said. Social Security is on track to deplete its trust fund by 2034 if Congress does not take action.

We already have a problem of not enough money going into the trust fund. This bill makes even less money go into the trust fund," he said."

The bill does no such thing. It is an enhanced deduction against taxable income, which can include Social Security benefits. The "trust fund" receives money from workers' and employers' payroll taxes, not the general income tax receipts.

The only things that worsen the state of the trust fund are decreases in the receipts, or increases in the aggregate amount of benefit payments.

BTW, Kogan is a spokesperson for the Center for American Progress, and the AP refers to them as a non-partisan think tank. They're far from non-partisan, and operate really as a far-left advocacy organization. They're only non-partisan to the extent they say they are to satisfy IRS requirements to remain tax-exempt.

40 posted on 07/07/2025 11:44:04 AM PDT by Be Free (A pardon carries an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it. USSC: Burdick v. US)
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