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Save NASA! Science budget cuts don't help anyone!
The Angry Astronaut ^ | July 2, 2025 | The Angry Astronaut

Posted on 07/03/2025 6:13:53 AM PDT by PIF

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To: PIF

NASA doesn’t have the ability at the moment to carry humans into space and hasn’t for 15 years. Hasn’t affected me in the slightest.
And I couldn’t give a flying fornication who plays around in space or is “the leader”. Besides satellites and such, it’s not important to everyday life.

Pretty much, space has moved beyond the nation state and into the Musk zone. NASA is a backwater, struggling for relevance.

NASA isn’t a leader anymore. And face facts, the cool photos from the space telescopes do not and will never do anything useful to us besides provide some esoteric information and cool posters for the wall of science classrooms.


41 posted on 07/03/2025 7:44:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: PIF

They are eyeballs deep in the global warming scam, and haven’t flown an astronaut in 15 years. They needed their wings clipped...or a bitch slap, if you prefer.


42 posted on 07/03/2025 7:47:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: rlmorel

Very lucky. And NASA signed off on every step.


43 posted on 07/03/2025 7:47:45 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: PIF

I like the science, but not the cost. Maybe if NASA had tried to even remotely run itself as a “for profit” business like SpaceX... they wouldn’t be paying $1500 for a hammer and $50k for a toilet seat.

Imagine the science we could have had without all the payola and graft...


44 posted on 07/03/2025 7:53:20 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: PIF

“Coupled with the possible collapse of SpaceX from 47’s vengeance feud with Musk”

Generally, one has to be pretty reasonable to reach the top level.


45 posted on 07/03/2025 7:58:52 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: TomT in NJ; PIF
And this is after NASA wasted billions . . .

NASA became a bloated, self-referencing bureaucracy about the time Apollo ended. While they do get contractors (e.g. Boeing) to do some of their work, they still maintain the bureaucratic overhead and final decision authority, which slows everything down and leads to bad decisions. Nothing is 'all on Boeing' when NASA is jiggling their elbows all the time.

They did indeed waste billions on SLS, etc., but much of that 'waste' was not in any sense fraud or corruption. It was pure bureaucracy requiring endless trade studies rather than just building something and see if it works (e.g. SpaceX). If you just build something you're paying contractors. If you are "performing" trade studies you are paying bureaucrats either to conduct the study or to evaluate it.

I would believe in NASA again (and they did good work in the days up to Apollo) if there were accountability. Where are the "systems engineers" at NASA who were laid off after SLS was such a failure, or after James Webb overran by 300% of the original budget? With no accountability for bad decisions you get lots and lots of bad decisions.

I am a big believer in a sound space program, but the best way to get the US back into space in a productive, value-added way is to get rid of NASA as a whole (perhaps retaining divisions that actually perform, like JPL, but without the over-arching bureaucracy) and let US industry meet a true national need.
46 posted on 07/03/2025 7:59:08 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: PIF

“Some people just hate science and there is no way to convince them otherwise.”

Spend two decades using “science” as a cudgel, and yeah, people begin to resent it. Two decades of global warming, climate change, faggotry, penis chopping, the covid scam, and the assaholic lectures from biotech, social distancing, dietary rules whipsawing back and forth from carbs to no carbs, butter to margarine, eggs are good, eggs are bad. Canola oil is healthy, Canola oil is dangerous...

“Science Inc” has pissed away it’s credibility. And NASA has been the pinnacle of non-performance and assaholic climate and gender lectures from frizzy haired female astronauts who can’t be bothered with a hair tie.

The wanna be listened to? Do something useful for a decade, STFU, and quit making it a breathless “But Russia! But China!”

When a plane runs out of energy, it stalls. NASA has run out of energy and has finally stalled out.
Anyone who dares invoke NASA of the 1960s.... ok. Wanna bring back THAT Nasa? That white male, patriotic and successful Nasa?

THAT is how you do it, not by trying to wrap yourself in their holy cloak.


47 posted on 07/03/2025 7:59:50 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI….There’s really not much to)
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To: PIF

“SpaceX”

As far as space is concerned, Space X’s recent launch failures are the most concerning.


48 posted on 07/03/2025 8:03:37 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: cgbg

It’s “$cience” now. You get the science you pay for.


49 posted on 07/03/2025 8:04:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: PIF

Good it should be. When NASA turned it’s back on real science to push DEI and Climate Change propaganda, it ended it usefullness

It time Conservative grow up. EVERYTHING needs to be cut. You can’t have any scared cows. This is how we gotten 36 trillion in debt. Instead of cutting anything, we always have this or that scared cow that “must” be funded no matter how corrupt or useless the agency has become.


50 posted on 07/03/2025 8:09:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: MNJohnnie
we always have this or that scared cow that “must” be funded no matter how corrupt or useless the agency has become.

Sacred cows but yours was probably more accurate.

51 posted on 07/03/2025 8:35:36 AM PDT by MikelTackNailer (Our ignorance fills an ocean; our knowledge a thimble. The trick is knowing their bounderies.)
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To: PIF

Yes yes. NASA is another agency that can’t possibly tighten its bell, needs massive funding forever, dump trucks full of flaming grant money in perpetual eternal funding or we are all going to die..... Etc etc ...


52 posted on 07/03/2025 8:35:51 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Leaning Right
"But as you noted, it’s not a necessity."

Didn't Russia put an EMP device into orbit this week?

53 posted on 07/03/2025 8:47:42 AM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident.)
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> Didn’t Russia put an EMP device into orbit this week? <

I don’t know. But you have hit upon an important point, one I should have made earlier.

We are a debtor nation. So the question becomes:
Is the project important enough that we should borrow money to fund it?

When it comes to EMP defense, I think the answer is yes.

When it comes to things like the Hubble space telescope, I think the answer is no.


54 posted on 07/03/2025 8:56:35 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: PIF

One year I listed my occupation as Angry Astronaut on my tax return.

L


55 posted on 07/03/2025 8:57:58 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: DesertRhino

That’s the thing. There are people who are saying it is all on Boeing.

It isn’t. NASA has to accept it and sign off on it. And that is the problem right there.

They accepted it and signed off on it...when it clearly was unsafe.

I understand the mindset of people who are angry that people like us write off NASA. It is disillusioning in much the same way many of us have become disillusioned with the FBI which used to be trusted many years ago, and now most of us sensibly would refuse to speak to them without a warrant or a lawyer present.

NASA has failed us as well in much the same way, as a former admired and trusted institution. I hear people say NASA should get out of the manned spaceflight portion and stick to unmanned robotics, etc.

Maybe that is true.


56 posted on 07/03/2025 9:04:32 AM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: PIF

Believe it or not, I really don’t care.
I also worked in the federal govt for 30 years, there’s is plenty of waste. But you probably don’t believe that either.


57 posted on 07/03/2025 9:09:00 AM PDT by No Party Affiliation
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To: rlmorel

Many folks have forgotten projects that were on the planning board in the 1950s and 1960s.

Here is one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Horizon

Our failure to achieve those goals these many decades later is—to put it bluntly—pathetic.


58 posted on 07/03/2025 9:10:44 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Magnum44

” I would argue that going back to the moon is the only one that has national security value.”

Our national security has little to do with the moon. We have yet to get anything out of space travel directly that has been a boom to the human race. All the technology we developed was to accomplish space travel not because of it. It may be something for the future when we can get past our current problems, just not at the moment.

wy69


59 posted on 07/03/2025 9:27:11 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: PIF

There are a lot of redundant and useless government jobs that need to be cut. Does NASA really need to have historians on the payroll? There are plenty of clerks and other paper pushers who can archive NASA’s materials.


60 posted on 07/03/2025 9:32:26 AM PDT by dowcaet
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