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The Hidden Costs and Harms of Wind Energy
Various Primary Sources | Many 15, 2025 | Protect Our Freedom and Grok

Posted on 05/15/2025 10:02:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

The Hidden Costs and Harms of Wind Energy: A Systems Perspective on Economic Waste, Environmental Destruction, Wildlife Impacts, and Community Powerlessness

Introduction
Wind energy, touted as a "Net Zero" solution, promises low-carbon electricity. Yet, its economic waste, vast land use, unreliability, health impacts, vista destruction, wildlife mortality, and abandonment risks--evident in Washington’s Palouse Hills and Columbia River Gorge--reveal a flawed technology driven by subsidies and eco-idealism. Fierce opposition to wind is arising in Washington and Oregon. This paper, based on discussions with a concerned citizen driving these regions, exposes wind’s true costs and urges alternatives.

Economic Inefficiency and Subsidy Dependence
Wind relies on subsidies masking high costs. The U.S. Production Tax Credit (PTC, ~$26/MWh) and Investment Tax Credit (ITC, 30% of project costs) provide ~$100 billion yearly, with Washington’s Clean Energy Transformation Act (CETA) adding incentives. A 1,000 MW wind farm costs ~$1.3-2 billion, but its low energy density (0.5-2 W/m^2 vs. 500-1,000 W/m^2 for gas/nuclear) and ~35% capacity factor (idle 60-70% of the time) require added infrastructure, inflating expenses.

Conceptually, wind needs "three plants" for reliability: one for daytime power, one to charge storage (both are combined into one over-built plant), and a backup for no-wind periods, tripling costs--$6.6-12.8 billion for a 1,000 MW system with gas backup, vs. $1-1.5 billion for gas or $3-4 billion for coal. Batteries for a week’s backup (168 GWh) cost $50-67 billion, making a renewable grid (~$4.5-56 trillion nationally) impractical. Without subsidies, wind’s levelized cost (~$50-80/MWh) falters against gas (~$40-60/MWh).

Scale and Land Utilization
Wind’s low density demands vast land. A 500 MW wind farm (e.g., Shepherds Flat, OR, 845 MW) spans ~20,000-30,000 acres, vs. ~100 acres for gas or 10-50 for nuclear. In the Columbia River Gorge, ~1,000 turbines across ~75,000-100,000 acres have industrialized a National Scenic Area. In the Palouse Hills, Harvest Hills (60-100 turbines, ~20,000-30,000 acres near Colfax, WA) threatens iconic hills. This sprawl fragments farmland, scars landscapes with concrete foundations (1,000 tons/turbine), towers, roads and transmission lines, and disrupts ecosystems.

Unreliability and Backup Needs
Wind’s intermittency--producing only at 10-55 mph winds--averages a 35% capacity factor, and is idle ~60-70% of the time, as seen in the Gorge’s Shepherds Flat. This requires 100% standby power, typically gas ($1-1.5 billion for 1,000 MW) or coal ($3-4 billion), wasting capital when wind blows. Batteries are infeasible: 2025’s U.S. storage (~99-132 GWh) covers ~10 minutes of national demand; one day’s storage (11 TWh) costs $3.3-4.4 trillion. Tripling costs by 200-300%, wind’s U.S. CO2 cuts (~14% globally) are offset by China’s coal (~30%).

Destruction of Precious Vistas
Wind farms obliterate landscapes. Residents and drivers on US-97 in Oregon and I-84 in the Columbia River Gorge or US-195 near Colfax suffer extreme visual blight from wind farms. The Gorge’s ~1,000 turbines (150m tall, visible 10-20 miles) have “trashed” Mt. Hood and Columbia River vistas, once “God’s creation.” In the Palouse, Harvest Hills threatens pastoral hills, with “No Wind Farm” signs on ranches, farms, and homes signal grief for future generations. Unlike 1960s-70s oil rigs (1-acre platforms, 2-5 miles out), wind farms cover thousands of acres, rarely decommissioned, leaving scars. Eco-advocates’ silence fuels hypocrisy charges.

Infrasound: A Hidden Health Crisis
Turbines emit infrasound (0.1-20 Hz, 40-60 dB at 1 km), penetrating walls and causing insomnia, anxiety, and nausea in 10-20% of residents within 1-2 km (Frontiers in Public Health, 2014; Acoustics Australia, 2021). Wisconsin’s Shirley Wind Farm saw 17 families abandon homes; Oregon’s Klondike lost 3-5 from 120-year properties. Harvest Hills’ turbines (<1 km from Colfax farms) could expose hundreds, yet Washington’s noise rules (50 dB audible) ignore infrasound. Eco-advocates dismiss complaints, unlike their 1970s coal protests.

Wildlife Impacts: Raptors and Flying Insects
Turbines kill wildlife, disrupting ecosystems.

Decommissioning Risks: Unposted Surety Bonds and Superfund Potential
Wind farms risk becoming abandoned liabilities due to inadequate surety bonds for end-of-life removal. Turbines last ~20-30 years, but decommissioning (removal, site remediation) costs ~$200,000-500,000/turbine, or $12-50 million for a 60-100 turbine farm like Harvest Hills. Washington requires bonds (2019 law), but amounts (~$100,000/turbine) often fall way short, and enforcement is lax--only 10% of U.S. wind farms have fully funded bonds (2023 EIA data). Companies (e.g., EDP Renewables) may go bankrupt or dissolve in 50 years, leaving no entity accountable, as seen in Texas’ 2021 Brazos Wind bankruptcy, where 50 turbines remain unremoved.

This risks a future EPA Superfund to clean up thousands of abandoned turbines, with concrete bases (1,000 tons/turbine) and non-recyclable blades littering landscapes like the Palouse. A single 1,000-turbine site could cost $500 million-$1 billion to remediate, with national costs potentially reaching $50-100 billion by 2075. Eco-advocates ignore this, focusing on CO2 cuts, leaving taxpayers to fund cleanup of these “infernal machines.”

Community Powerlessness and Eco-Hypocrisy
Colfax’s ubiquitous “No Wind Farm” signs on homes, ranches and farms reflect fury against big wind ($20 billion EDP) and CETA’s mandates. The state’s Energy Facility Site Evaluation Council (EFSEC) overrides local rules, as seen in Whitman County’s 2024 wind limits. Rural voices are drowned out by urban green agendas, with Sierra Club pushing wind while ignoring infrasound, vista destruction, wildlife kills, and decommissioning risks. In the 1960s, environmental groups complained loudly about a few oil rigs off the coastline in California and Oregon, yet there is no groundswell of complain about the extreme visual blight of wind turbines.

Alternatives and Solutions
Wind’s harms outweigh benefits; alternatives include:

Conclusion
Wind’s economic waste (200-300% cost increases), land use (20,000-100,000 acres), unreliability (60-70% idle), health impacts (infrasound), vista destruction, wildlife mortality (raptors, insects), and decommissioning risks burden regions like the Palouse and the Columbia River Gorge. Subsidies ($100 billion/year) and eco-hypocrisy drive projects like Harvest Hills, ignoring Colfax’s “No Wind Farm” pleas and risking a Superfund crisis. Nuclear, gas with CCS, or local resistance offer solutions, but policymakers must prioritize low-impact energy to preserve God’s creation.


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To: spokeshave

History can be an excellent teacher.

Our forefathers lived through the electrification of the United States.

That was the death of the wind industry around the 1930’s

Less than 100 years later we have this monstrosity as a foundation for the new wind industry.

I fear the only solution to that is going to be high explosives.


21 posted on 05/16/2025 4:31:43 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since May 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: muskah

Re: “Fighting a proposed turbine project in WV.”

Grok said it can write shortened version as a letter to the government boards reviewing and permitting the project. Let me know if you need help.


22 posted on 05/16/2025 5:26:01 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: Jonty30

“No free lunch.”

Exactly right. If you look at the total cradle-to-grave SYSTEM you find wind is a grotesque loser. When you factor in destroying our nation’s great beauty, it’s even worse. Those views are gone for good. I drive California to Idaho a couple times per year and see the magnificent scenery covered in these monstrosities.


23 posted on 05/16/2025 5:28:56 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: rktman

I read an article recently that also mentioned problems with wind & solar that most people probably never think about. Wind & solar are naturally going to vary with their ability to constantly maintain voltage & frequency as compared to conventional power plants. These are absolutely essential in modern power distribution. Yet, I see supposedly educated people contemplating this “green energy” all the time, even though it is shown to be an expensive & risky venture.


24 posted on 05/16/2025 5:33:19 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: oldtech

As Spain recently saw with the entire grid going down. 😳


25 posted on 05/16/2025 6:44:34 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fmbZwxEnAFc


26 posted on 05/16/2025 8:11:52 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: All
Thanks, everybody, for your suggestions on additional things to include. I had Grok remove "Benefits," added land use, strengthened destruction of the USA natural beauty, added copper use, added lubricating oil consumption and fires, added roads, reduced pejoratives (e.g,, "eco-kooks"). I had Grok frame it as a typical elite urban versus rural issue.

I have not reviewed in detail all of Grok's numbers and analysis. In my experience, it excels at that. But it was overstating the CO2 needed to make cement by 10X. I pointed that out and it fixed it.

Overall, this would be a good very rough first draft of a paper. It needs a lot of editing work (I've only done a bit of that). As the author of many technical power paper, it is still too pejorative and emotional for my taste (but that reflects my input to Grok).

Comments welcome. I hope this is useful.

Chasing Wind: A Fool’s Errand of Economic Waste, Environmental Devastation, and Rural Betrayal

Introduction
Wind energy, championed by liberal urban elites as a "Net Zero" savior, delivers zero benefits, its catastrophic costs—economic waste, sprawling land use, unreliability, health impacts, and environmental devastation—crushing the heart of rural America. Farmers, ranchers, and small-town residents, the backbone of the nation’s food production, bear the brunt, their landscapes and livelihoods invaded by turbine “monstrosities” reminiscent of H.G. Wells’ War of the Worlds Martian machines, towering over communities and shattering their heritage. In Washington’s Palouse Hills, “No Wind Farm” signs in Colfax signal defiance against this urban-driven betrayal. This paper, rooted in a rural citizen’s observations, exposes wind’s devastating toll and demands alternatives that respect rural America.

Economic Inefficiency and Subsidy Dependence
Wind energy’s facade of affordability relies on subsidies that burden rural taxpayers. The U.S. Production Tax Credit (PTC, ~$26/MWh) and Investment Tax Credit (ITC, 30% of project costs) inject ~$100 billion annually, with state mandates like Washington’s Clean Energy Transformation Act (CETA) piling on incentives. A 1,000 MW wind farm costs ~$1.3–2 billion, but its low energy density (0.5–2 W/m^2 vs. 500–1,000 W/m^2 for gas/nuclear) and ~35% capacity factor (idle 60–70% of the time) necessitate additional infrastructure, inflating expenses.

Wind requires massive overbuilding for reliability: you need capacity for daytime power, you need extra capacity to charge energy storage, and you need a backup power system for no-wind periods (batteries, natural gas, pumped hydro, etc). This effectively doubles to triples costs , tripling costs to $6.6–12.8 billion compared to $1–1.5 billion for a gas plant. Batteries for a week’s backup (168 GWh) cost $50–67 billion, rendering a fully renewable grid (~$4.5–56 trillion nationally) a fool’s errand. Without subsidies, wind’s levelized cost (~$50–80/MWh) struggles against gas (~$40–60/MWh). Rural communities, already economically strained, subsidize urban elites’ green fantasies, reaping no tangible benefits.

Scale, Land Utilization, and Road Infrastructure
Wind’s insatiable land hunger devours rural America. A 500 MW wind farm (250 2 MW turbines) spans ~20,000–30,000 acres, compared to ~100 acres for gas or 10–50 for nuclear. Each 2 MW turbine foundation, weighing ~800–1,200 tons of concrete, leaves permanent scars on farmland. Access roads (30–50 ft wide) add ~1,000–3,000 acres per farm (10–20 miles at 5–10 acres/mile), costing $0.5–1 million/mile ($5–20 million total) and $0.5–2 million/year to maintain. Nationally, ~500,000 turbines would require ~100,000–200,000 miles of roads, costing $50–200 billion to build and $5–20 billion/year to maintain.

In Washington’s Palouse Hills, Harvest Hills (60–100 turbines, ~20,000–30,000 acres near Colfax) threatens fertile wheat fields, fragmenting farms and disrupting irrigation. In Iowa’s Corn Belt, wind farms like Adair (174 turbines, ~20,000 acres) carve up cropland, reducing arable land by 5–10%. These roads and foundations, driven by urban mandates, erode rural economies and food security, offering farmers paltry lease payments (~$5,000–10,000/turbine/year) for long-term loss.

Unreliability and Backup Needs
Wind’s intermittency—35% capacity factor, idle ~60–70%—demands 100% standby power, typically gas ($1–1.5 billion for 1,000 MW), wasting rural resources on infrastructure that sits idle when wind blows. Batteries are a pipe dream: 2025’s U.S. storage (~99–132 GWh) covers ~10 minutes of national demand; one day (11 TWh) costs $3.3–4.4 trillion. Tripling costs by 200–300%, wind’s CO2 cuts (~14% of global emissions) are negated by China’s coal (~30%), rendering rural sacrifices futile. Small towns face higher energy costs and blackout risks, as seen in California’s 2020 outages, while urban elites enjoy stable grids.

Destruction of Precious Vistas
Wind farms utterly destroy vistas, one of the USA’s great natural resources, transforming rural landscapes into industrial wastelands under Gaia’s eco-dogma peddled by urban elites. Across the nation, turbines (150m tall, visible 10–20 miles) loom over small towns like H.G. Wells’ Martian machines, crushing the spirit of farmers, ranchers, and residents who cherish their heritage. In California’s Tehachapi Pass, ~4,000 turbines clutter desert mountains, obliterating scenic drives. Texas’ McCamey fields (~2,000 turbines, 100,000 acres) desecrate plains once roamed by ranchers. Iowa’s Osceola County sees ~400 turbines overshadow family farms, while Wyoming’s Chokecherry-Sierra Madre project (600 turbines, ~200,000 acres) scars sagebrush vistas sacred to Native tribes.

In the Columbia River Gorge, ~1,000 turbines obliterate Mt. Hood vistas along US-97/I-84, a National Scenic Area defiled. In Washington’s Palouse Hills, Harvest Hills’ “No Wind Farm” signs signal despair as turbines threaten pastoral hills. These invasions strip rural communities of cultural identity—town festivals, tourism, and spiritual connection to “God’s creation”—while urbanites, far from the blight, laud “green progress.” Unlike 1960s oil rigs (1-acre, 2–5 miles out), wind farms cover thousands of acres, rarely decommissioned, leaving concrete scars. Urban advocates’ silence betrays rural America .

Infrasound: A Hidden Health Crisis
Turbines emit infrasound (0.1–20 Hz, 40–60 dB at 1 km), causing insomnia, anxiety, and nausea in 10–20% of rural residents within 1–2 km (Frontiers in Public Health, 2014; Acoustics Australia, 2021). Wisconsin’s Shirley Wind saw 17 families abandon homes; Oregon’s Klondike lost 3–5 from 120-year properties, citing “unbearable pressure.” Harvest Hills’ turbines (<1 km from Colfax farms) could afflict hundreds, forcing farmers from ancestral lands. Washington’s noise rules ignore infrasound, and urban advocates dismiss rural suffering, unlike their 1970s coal protests, leaving small towns to endure health crises alone.

Wildlife Impacts: Raptors and Flying Insects
Turbines devastate rural ecosystems:

Decommissioning Risks: Unposted Surety Bonds and Superfund Potential
Inadequate surety bonds risk abandoned turbines scarring rural landscapes. Decommissioning costs ~$200,000–500,000/turbine, or $12–50 million for a 60–100 turbine farm. Washington’s 2019 law requires bonds (~$100,000/turbine), but only 10% of U.S. wind farms have full funding (2023 EIA). Bankruptcies (e.g., Texas’ 2021 Brazos Wind, 50 turbines unremoved) leave no accountable entity. An EPA Superfund could cost $50–100 billion by 2075 for ~500,000 turbines’ concrete bases and blades. Urban advocates ignore this, leaving rural taxpayers to clean up “infernal machines,” further burdening small towns.

Copper, Fossil Fuels, and Oil-Related Impacts
Wind’s infrastructure ravages rural environments:

Community Powerlessness and Ideological Divide
Wind energy pits liberal urban elites against rural communities, a clash of values and power. Colfax’s “No Wind Farm” signs reflect farmers’ and ranchers’ fury against big wind ($20 billion EDP) and CETA, as turbines loom over small towns like Martian invaders, visible from main streets and churches. Rural economies suffer: property values near turbines drop 5–15% (2022 study), and tourism in places like the Palouse (e.g., photography, festivals) declines as vistas vanish. Farmers face disrupted irrigation and reduced yields, while small businesses in towns like Moro, OR, lose visitors deterred by industrial blight.

The state’s EFSEC overrides local rules, as seen in Whitman County’s 2024 wind limits, ignoring rural voices—food producers and town dwellers—who face health, economic, and cultural losses. Urban environmentalists, sipping lattes in Seattle or Portland, champion wind from afar, detached from the infrasound torment, vista destruction, wildlife slaughter, oil risks, and decommissioning burdens they impose on rural America. Their silence on these harms, unlike their 1960s oil rig protests, betrays those who feed the nation. In Colfax, “Save the Palouse” rallies (2024, Whitman County Gazette) and EFSEC hearings (spring 2025) fight back, but urban-driven policies drown out rural pleas .

Alternatives and Solutions
Wind’s devastation demands alternatives that respect rural communities:

Conclusion
Pursuing wind energy, a fool’s errand, yields no meaningful benefits, its crippling economic costs, sprawling land use, inherent unreliability, and severe environmental tolls—ranging from infrasound-induced health crises to the slaughter of wildlife and the looming burden of abandoned turbines—far eclipsing any marginal gains in reducing conventional energy use. Driven by misguided environmental ideologies, wind projects like Harvest Hills in Washington’s Palouse Hills devastate America’s vistas, a priceless national treasure, while dismissing the urgent pleas of communities through “No Wind Farm” signs. The reliance on subsidies and the failure to address a potential Superfund crisis further betray public trust. Responsible energy policy must prioritize proven, low-impact solutions like nuclear power or gas with carbon capture, alongside robust community-led resistance, to safeguard God’s creation for future generations.

27 posted on 05/16/2025 8:31:43 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL...I JUST finished watching “Landman.” I was shocked how brutally honest it was about wind. I loved how it took that green female lawyer by surprise. You could see she was FINALLY starting to think logically about energy than emotionally.

Thanks for that link.

Did you watch the show? It was pretty good (except for some stupid technical failures like turning a pipe wrench the wrong way and a low pressure pump jack having a high pressure blowout fire).


28 posted on 05/16/2025 8:34:36 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Plus when one of these windmills gets damaged..like by a tornado or windstorm. Those vanes are made of fiberglass. When they are damaged they shed millions of glass fibers over the soil. You can’t run cattle on that land because they will ingest the glass fibers, nor raise crops because of the glass fibers. The land becomes worthless.


29 posted on 05/16/2025 8:54:15 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

There is a fantastic scene with Billy Bob Thornton educating a Globull Climate Hoax dogooder on the reality and truth of wind “power.” At one point, he states something close to “it is not renewable, it is an alternative.” THEN, he describes the mountain of hydrocarbons necessary to build not just the windmill, but the huuuuge concrete base, and the huuuuge crane, powered by hydrocarbons.


30 posted on 05/16/2025 6:33:16 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

I just watched “Landman” and saw that scene. He left the liberal young female lawyer agape. She had really drunk the Kool Ade, was a true believer, and nobody had ever told her about the ridiculous impracticality and expense of wind.

I was amazed that that scene didn’t land on the cutting room floor.


31 posted on 05/16/2025 8:19:12 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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