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1 posted on 05/13/2025 3:39:39 AM PDT by davikkm
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I know cops didn’t like it, because they were concerned about their car stalling out.


2 posted on 05/13/2025 3:42:38 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If the life of a fish is as valuable as a human, why can't humans eat fish when fish eat fish?.)
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I can’t afford a new car but don’t have any incentive to want one anyway, until most of this craziness is rolled back and automakers can go back to pleasing consumers rather than bureaucrats and leftwing nuts.


3 posted on 05/13/2025 3:47:30 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustmilents offered here free of charge)
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I end it on my vehicle every time I start it up. Pushing the button to cancel it is simple, but it’s just a little annoying, especially if I forget.


4 posted on 05/13/2025 3:51:02 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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I rented a Cooper Mini at a FL airport and it had that feature. After driving it for an hour I had the impression that I was supposed to appreciate the vehicle for how it was helping me to save the planet. If it wasn't for the bullshit, I think I would've enjoyed driving it a lot more...That and if it had a manual transmission.
5 posted on 05/13/2025 3:51:57 AM PDT by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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I had Grol crunching the numbers yesterday. It does a remarkable job framing a problem, making assumptions, doling sensitivity analysis, and calculating results.

I was astounded how this tech adds $800-$1,000 to MSRP. and saves you maybe $100 over five years.

There was higher savings in city stiop and go driving compared to suburban and rural driving, so it is a cross subsidy from rural/suburban to urban drivers.

And that high increase in MSRP really hits the poor and working class people the hardest.

So the whole thing just stinks.


6 posted on 05/13/2025 3:53:46 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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It’s so easy to disable, a cave man could do it.
But, it should never have been installed in the first place.


7 posted on 05/13/2025 3:56:33 AM PDT by Fireone (1.Avoid crowds 2.Head on a swivel 3.Be prepared to protect & defend those around you 4.Avoid crowds)
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That’s what we are talking about.
Fire all the so called employees of ours that have in the past dictated what goes into the open ended regulations and how what they write is interpreted.
Deselect the unelect now.


8 posted on 05/13/2025 3:57:47 AM PDT by Recompennation
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They govt could set targets, but it’s meddling when they dictate to manufacturers how to meet them.

Let the free market work.


9 posted on 05/13/2025 4:03:08 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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The thing I hate most about it is that it almost psychicly does the wrong thing if I forget to turn it off. If I come to a stop sign for a one second stop, look and go the engine will turn off. If I get in line at the car wash where I sit for five minutes and then advance one car length it will keep running.

One feature could have removed the pain: retain the setting between starts. The AC stays on or off when I turn off the engine. The cruise control does the same, as do the various traction control settings. Just stay off when I turn it off instead of always turning back on.

15 posted on 05/13/2025 4:37:46 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May Rachel Zegler and Disney never know profits.)
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start-stop technology

That's the dumbest piece of technology ever developed. I turn mine off every time I get in the car and when I forget, it never works anyway when I come to a stop.

18 posted on 05/13/2025 4:48:31 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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With some cars, this is easy to disable. With some cars, it isn’t. Or you might have the option to disable it every time you startup. PITA but eventually you can get used to doing that.


20 posted on 05/13/2025 4:58:01 AM PDT by Nifty
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We unfortunately had to buy a vehicle during the plandemic. With the chip shortage Ford was having trouble fielding chips for the start-stop. They gave us $50 to NOT put in the BS “feature” we didn’t want.


22 posted on 05/13/2025 5:05:31 AM PDT by Repeat Offender
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I believe existing cars on the road could have their systems updated to remove this function. Either in the programming, or with a hardware update. The car basically has to ‘decide’ when to just itself off, based on a number of conditions. NO reason it cannot be turned off


23 posted on 05/13/2025 5:06:37 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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I got tired of having to hit the button to turn the “feature” off every time I started the vehicle - got lucky with the new Rav 4 - got the overhead view package that includes using the camera from the rear view mirror if you have stuff piled in the back, blocking the view - the control to turn it off is via buttons on the mirror (weird place for it), but once I turned it off, it stayed off - don’t have to mess with it every time I get in the car.


24 posted on 05/13/2025 5:19:32 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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There’s a button on the dash of my Chevy labelled “A” that enables/disables the engine shut off.


26 posted on 05/13/2025 5:21:18 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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I rented a cheap Ford Focus or some such with practically no automated or computerized features. It was so easy to drive and quiet, felt like a breeze. I preferred it over my newer BMW.


29 posted on 05/13/2025 6:03:43 AM PDT by GreatRoad ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act' )
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The real purpose was to make cars more expensive and less pleasurable to drive.

Because the left hates freedom of transport almost as much as it hates freedom of speech.


30 posted on 05/13/2025 6:16:18 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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My 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee HEMI V8 has an option in “Controls”, to negate the ‘start-stop’ idiocy. I turned it off before I left the dealership, on day one.


32 posted on 05/13/2025 6:25:52 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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Remember the years when you HAD TO FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELT to get the car to start?


33 posted on 05/13/2025 6:36:43 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( )
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Just another one of the insane regulations that government loves to force on us. Remember the rules that prevented cars from starting if you didn’t have the seat belt buckled? I believe I encountered this on a Toyota in the 70’s. It was possible to turn the “feature” off, which I did.


34 posted on 05/13/2025 6:45:59 AM PDT by I want the USA back (America is once again GREAT! )
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