Posted on 05/07/2025 2:22:39 PM PDT by davikkm
California drivers could soon face gas prices soaring to $8.43 per gallon, a staggering 75% increase from current levels. The looming crisis stems from the shutdown of two major in-state refineries, which together account for 20% of California’s gasoline production.
The Phillips 66 refinery in Los Angeles is set to close by the end of 2025, followed by the Valero refinery in Benicia, which will halt operations in April 2026. These closures will create a gasoline deficit ranging from 6.6 million to 13.1 million gallons per day, according to an analysis by USC Professor Michael Mische. The impact will extend beyond fuel prices, affecting supply chains, air travel, food delivery, agriculture, manufacturing, and healthcare.
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New diesel truck injection pump and injectors don’t like fuel in excess of B20.
“You can make bio diesel from used cooking oil.”
Trouble is getting your feed-stock now. In times past, restaurants paid a person to haul off the waste vegetable oil but now it has enough value that they buy it from you. The only way you are going to get waste oil today is if your brother-in-law owns the restaurant.
IAC, they don't have to worry since the high-speed-rail system will provide all the transportation & mobility that Communist-voting serfs need...
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Right. They will divert fuel to CA because it will bring more money. Then nation wide fuel price will rise.
“You can make bio diesel from used cooking oil.”
True, but you have to have a diesel engine with the proper compression ratio to run it. And in cold weather you have to melt it back to a liquid before you can squirt it. For greedy reasons the oil industry has lobbied to keep Diesels out of the passenger market for 30 years or more...
If the oil companies were half way intelligent they would start pushing “Diesel over Electric”hybrids and no batteries needed. They will make more in the end and it would be a great compromise for both the environmentalists and the consumers...
But they are idiots...
A famous hippie clubowner in Denver ran her Mercedes on her used cooking oil. The car smelled like french fries.
“But they are idiots...z”
Nobody would listen to them about car design. Where are all the car designers who should know this?
we can hope it will happen to California for their self-inflicted madness.
Hey, California FAFO.
My wife and I have an EV car and a gas pickup. We also have tons of solar for our home (almost all of our EV charging is when we have free solar power coming in and don't need the grid).
But that works out well only if you do your homework on your climate and your driving habits (and other power consumption habits) to make sure that it's worth buying an EV the next time you have to replace one of your cars. I already had solar when we got the EV. By my math, the choice to get the EV crossover vs a gas crossover (new or used), with the gas and oil change savings of an EV, but with all the extra costs that come with an EV, including in my case how much I'd add onto the solar to optimize charging the EV without adding to my power bill, but not do so much of that without fighting the law of diminishing returns .... all that came out to driving it at least 8K miles per year on home charged miles. Anything over that, and the EV/solar choice is very much an energy savings. We drive it 18K miles per year on home charged miles (not counting road-side or hotel charging on trips).
So my wife and I already have a system of "fueling" our car "around town". But this post is mainly, I believe, about cargo transportation from the California ports to the warmageddon cult freedom states east of California. So I'm wondering if it's possible for some of the truck and/or train companies to make their own fuel.
Cause Nevada is a “sister” state and a tag along that follows right behind Ca’s agenda with everything environmental. And since Ca’s agenda and end goal is population control Nevada is all in...
You need to move... I would live in a tent in a sandwash before I would physically live in either...
Wood Gassifiers.
Good luck with that though.
Bio diesel from fry oil is an option for diesel.
Get an old Carbureted Jeep and convert to propane hybrid, run off forklift cansisters
“””The loss of 2 refineries ( when we have too few already
) will affect gas prices nationwide. Less of something, the more the remainder costs.”””
The west coast states are pretty isolated from the rest of the USA when it comes to refining capacity. CA, OR, WA, NV, AZ get almost all of their petroleum products from refineries in CA and WA.
Set up a still and make moonshine.
“Nobody would listen to them about car design. Where are all the car designers who should know this?”
They do... But all car designs are dictated and “approved” by the Feds and the big oil and environmental groups control “approval” through lobbying.
Remember just recently VW tried to introduce a new Diesel passenger to the market? They were shut down on a minor “Technicality” by the feds because of complaints from those two lobbies...
My next move will likely be the crematorium. 😳
Combine that will fires, sky rocketing gas prices, electric car mandates, homelessness, etc ....when will Californians get tired of “Newscum winning”?
No... PIF is absolutely correct. We don’t even have the capacity to refine all the extra oil from the Keystone Pipeline from Canada. Because no new Refineries have been allowed to be built for 50 years or more and our own demand has quadrupled since...
EVER refinery is needed right now. What these in Ca no longer supplies other will have to supply. So overall universally all fuel prices are going to go up. THIS is why it is a NATIONAL SECURITY and Federal Interstate Commerce issue and why Trump needs to step in RIGHT NOW.
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