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DOGE Must Crack Down on the Social Security Disability ATM
https://amuseonx.substack.com/ ^ | Apr 09, 2025 | @amuse

Posted on 04/10/2025 8:29:26 AM PDT by bitt

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To: montag813

Plenty of law firms that specialize in this very thing.

All these jobs supposedly coming back? Who is going to take them? Sure there will be some unicorns with sky high pay gold benefits and union protection but most of these jobs won’t be worth getting off the dole. We are already at a low unemployment rate. But our total employment is a % of work capable people is a disgrace. Not to mention all the people retired in place in secure government jobs.

We have more people in the cart than pulling the cart.


21 posted on 04/10/2025 9:48:02 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: bitt

That is less than 1.5 cases per working day per judge - hardly overworked.


22 posted on 04/10/2025 9:51:15 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: bitt

My anecdotal experience from friends and family is that if you’re white, you have a hell of a time getting approval.


23 posted on 04/10/2025 9:58:21 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: bitt

Social Security disability claims, everytyhing spiked in the Obama years:

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/dibGraphs.html#2


24 posted on 04/10/2025 10:14:39 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: DannyTN

The denials go on and on.

Say for a year.

Then a SS lawyer picks up the case.

And it is approved. BACK TO THE ORIGINAL DATE OF THE FIRST CLAIM.

The SS lawyer get 40% of the chunk.

The person gets 60% of the chunk.

IT IS A LAWYER PAYMENT BUSINESS.

See this happen over and over.

While sick and dying are refused... and don’t make it.

Th


25 posted on 04/10/2025 10:24:00 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Wuli

This is because the baby boomers are getting older and are having heart attacks, strokes and bone problems so they could no longer work. If it happens to you then you will appreciate the 35+ years you paid for SSA insurance along with your pension and/or private disability insurance.


26 posted on 04/10/2025 10:32:27 AM PDT by Pol-92064
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To: bitt

This narrative is false. Only ~44% of ALL social disability claims are approved. None of us know when a stroke, Heart attack or bone disease will make us unable to work.


27 posted on 04/10/2025 10:38:24 AM PDT by Pol-92064
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To: Pol-92064

“This is because the baby boomers are getting older”

That is a global issue in all the more developed countries, which now includes China, Japan, South Korea, all of western Europe, most of the former Soviet block, Russia, and Latin America. About the oly places that is not a problem (yet) is Africa and parts of the Middle East.


28 posted on 04/10/2025 10:39:37 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: bitt

Ironically, SSDI is barely enough to live on and you aren’t allowed to work. It’s a system to keep people in poverty.
I knew a guy who went on SSDI and later fell out of a tree stand while hunting. He went back to get more money, arguing “Now I really CAN’T work”. Many people on it here have a side business like mowing lawns, house cleaning, car detailing, etc.


29 posted on 04/10/2025 10:40:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If Hitler were alive today and criticized Trump, would he still be Hitler?)
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To: Pol-92064

Almost all of the claims approved involved a lawyer.


30 posted on 04/10/2025 10:42:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If Hitler were alive today and criticized Trump, would he still be Hitler?)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

SSDI does not pay better than most
states’ minimum wage.
SSDI payment amounts (for max
benifits) are based on 5 years
highest earnings for the applicant.
Most 55 year olds who are bumped
from the job market have their
affairs in order enough to live
on lower income amounts.
There’s also a 2 year grace period
from the time an applicant is
approved for SSDI payments before
they’re awarded their first check.


31 posted on 04/10/2025 11:08:14 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: GOPJ

hate to tell everyone this...

but a lot of it the destitute white folks as well.


32 posted on 04/10/2025 11:23:05 AM PDT by EBH (It is always darkest before the dawn. Government betrayed the Republic.)
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To: Lean-Right

You are utterly wrong on calculations and about everything else. See:

https://www.aarp.org/social-security/dsiability-benefits-calculation/#:~:text=Mathematically%20speaking%2C%20Social%20Security%20Disability,you%20paid%20Social%20Security%20taxes.

SSDI is calculated just like regular SS.

What’s a grace period? SSDI has a 5 month waiting period and can be claimed up to 12 months retroactively. See:

https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/disability/approval.html#:~:text=Have%20a%20Disability-,When%20Your%20Benefits%20Start,earnings%20covered%20by%20Social%20Security.

SSDI includes Medicare after 2 years so together and it’s all tax
Free so the benefits are much higher than minimum wage.

Do you understand that getting SSDI is the same as collecting your full retirement age SS check?

Claim disability at age 55 or so, and get what will be your full retirement age SS check until your full retirement age at 66 - 67 plus Medicare. Versus a non-immoral early retirement at 62 which is discounted 30% and no Medicare until 65.

The lower your earnings the higher % of income placement is received.

You get all this tax free, and you do not have to work or incur the expenses associated with working. Plus you can qualify for even more benefits.

Being truly disabled is a hard life. But these people show up at the grocery store with a handicapped placard in pickup trucks with tow hitches and get about their shopping just fine.


33 posted on 04/10/2025 11:38:49 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“The cases don’t get brought unless there is a valid need.”

In Obama’s firt term the “valid need” was people’s extended unemployment money ran out and millions were put on disability. Rush, and others, talked about this at length.


34 posted on 04/10/2025 12:20:34 PM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

I’m on disability which
turned into SS at 65. I jumped
thru the hoops and know what it
takes to qualify.
My disability lawyer was up front
and honest explauning the process,
qualifications, and the amount to be
awarded should I win my case.
A 2 year grace period, and an amount
based on the 5 highest paid years.
Why would I make stuff up?


35 posted on 04/10/2025 12:43:21 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: bitt

Paging Mr. Elon Musk pick up the red phone please.


36 posted on 04/10/2025 12:43:55 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: bitt

The thing that kills me about this is that it makes everything harder for those trying like hell to stay out of the system, to eke out a living despite nearly debilitating injury and illness, wanting to go on and not subsist, not fight for what should be granted to those eligible souls, it just wrecks it for them when the time comes where they can no longer go on fighting to stay in the workforce.

I am in this category, currently sitting at home on my third illness this year that has taken me out of work for a minimum of an entire work week (usually more like 10 days) because my immune system is hyperactive, so I must take meds to tamp it down. This, so I can function in a minimal enough fashion to manage 40 hours of mostly excruciating duties a week at a job that by the grace of god I manage to hold down. I sit most of the week because I can’t stand for periods of time more than 30 minutes due to my psoriatic arthritis / spondyloarthropathy and all the concomitant other issues that come along with it, and the side effects of the meds I take to try to manage it.

Me, I’ll probably get caught up in this fight soon enough, and it terrifies me.


37 posted on 04/10/2025 12:45:06 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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To: Lean-Right

Read my links. They are solid. Maybe it changed.

I am sorry to hear of your disability. I do not mean to demean you in anyway. If I was so unfortunate I would claim it as well. In fact the possibility existed for me and does exist for my spouse which is why I know as much as I do. But the SSDI rolls are bloated with people who can work but won’t due to underemployment.

I looked at my SS acct. The amount of SSDI equals my full age 67 SS. The wait period is 5 months. If the app is approved it can be retroactive for 12 months. It’s all right there on the SS website.


38 posted on 04/10/2025 12:53:17 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

No offense taken.
You may be correct in that
qualifications and amount
determinations have changed.
I can see where they may when
trying to head off the fraudsters.
I was just relating my own
experiences.


39 posted on 04/10/2025 1:11:21 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Lean-Right

I’m closing in on retirement. If I were to lose my job now a new job at my pay level is unlikely. I would need to plug a 5 year gap. So a full retirement SS check and Medicare tax free, essential early retirement without the SS penalty would be look great.

Oh and add in spousal benefit.


40 posted on 04/10/2025 1:21:59 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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