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To: ganeemead

In the immediate term, this looks good for Russia and terrible for Ukraine.

In the medium term, it simply confirms everything that Zelensky said to President Trump about Putin was true - POTUS blew up and said it was disrespectful, but now Moscow’s confirmed Z was right.

Buried beneath the disingenous agreement-in-principle from Putin, he is still sticking to the same impossible, unacceptable terms. He wants to weaken Ukraine and the US at the negotiating table, and is doing it by making POTUS pound sand. He’s saying that there won’t be peace this side of 2026 - even on Russia’s maximalist terms, let alone America’s.

So much for Trump getting a great deal in a few days or weeks.

If you drill through all the vranyo, this is what Russia wants EVEN BEFORE it’ll agree to a 30-day ceasefire.

- Mechanisms that’ll “completely dismantle” the current Ukrainian government, in place. That includes Russia’s demands for elections. The primary purpose of this demand is to ensure Russian interference guarantees the outcome.

(Putin wants to ensure his men win instead of how it went down in 2014, where Yanukovych’s own party as well as Azarov and others in government siding with the pro-Ukraine opposition in calling for his removal. Instead of getting a Lukashenko-lite president and a puppet government in Ukraine, Putin ended up with Poroshenko and a hostile Rada.)

- Vetoing any peacekeeping force with European or NATO troops - alongside Russia having a veto on where any peacekeepers come from (and, of course, like every other “red line”, there is zero reciprocity - Putin’s effectively saying, if Russia insists on having North Koreans or Wagner PMC as “peacekeepers”, Ukraine can’t say no.)

- A demilitarised zone in Ukraine, alongside no security guarantees for Ukraine, and with Ukrainan defense (in effect, leaving the defence of Ukraine practically weaponless, ensuring it could be overrun at the snap of Putin’s fingers.

- No NATO membership for Ukraine. This is the most daft one of all; whether or not retarded Americans have been bigging the prospect up for years, EU-NATO has gone as far as it possibly can to block Ukraine from joining, without violating the NATO charter open-door principle - which is, any country can apply to join, even Russia.

in 2022 Zelensky publicly conceded the NATO “open door” policy was closed to Ukraine to all intents and purposes AND he said Ukraine wouldn’t apply. Enough countries in NATO said they’d veto any application, making an application pointless.

So, Russia’s maximalist demands haven’t been watered down one drop despite losing a million soldiers and bringing the economy to the brink of collapse.

The only thing the White House can definitively say in response to that is, it’s now clear which side wants peace - Ukraine - and which one wants a generational hot war as well as a new cold war - Russia.


10 posted on 03/14/2025 12:01:04 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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To: MalPearce
The only thing the White House can definitively say in response to that is, it’s now clear which side wants peace - Ukraine - and which one wants a generational hot war as well as a new cold war - Russia.

More tired propaganda.

Boring!!
11 posted on 03/14/2025 12:18:27 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: MalPearce

It is good for Russia and bad for Ukraine
Can’t help it - you euros have had 80 years to get a credible defense program in
place and all you’ve done is bend over for the muslims and sub saharans.
If you don’t like what Trump is doing - strap a pair on and step up yourselves.


17 posted on 03/14/2025 3:25:33 AM PDT by Palio di Siena (Kralik…..you get the wallet)
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To: MalPearce

The US doesn’t “lose” anything.

Who cares if there’s an agreement or not?

I dont, as long as we aren’t send our money or men.

But you can send your whole pay check to help Ukraine if you want.

But not mine.


19 posted on 03/14/2025 3:32:33 AM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: MalPearce

I agree, and the trolls will say what they have always said, nazis, corruption…. Who was it again who invaded Poland along with nazi germany? Who invaded a sovereign nation for Lebensraum, who is allied with china, NK, and Iran?

Yup boring😎


21 posted on 03/14/2025 3:52:32 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: MalPearce

Military Summary Channel

https://youtu.be/XCRBGf6QPaw

All ya need to know.


23 posted on 03/14/2025 4:23:47 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: MalPearce

FAFO


27 posted on 03/14/2025 4:59:06 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: MalPearce

Start a GoFundMe Page for YouCrayne and lead the way by making
a donation to help the Ukie Dictator.


29 posted on 03/14/2025 5:17:19 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: MalPearce

If Ukraine had signed the damned minerals deal, this wouldn’t be happening. Zelenskyy brought this down on Ukraine. Now they have to live with it.


37 posted on 03/14/2025 8:12:36 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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