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Oversight Project investigation: Biden autopen signature used on 'every document we could find' +AN EVALUATION
Just the News ^ | 3/8/2025 | Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 03/09/2025 3:16:06 AM PDT by PhillyPhreeper

The Oversight Project, an investigative arm of the conservative Heritage Foundation, alleged an excessive use of autopen signature by former President Biden when he was in the White House.
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Bailey argued that if the widespread autopen use turns out to be true, "these executive orders, pardons, and all other actions are unconstitutional and legally void."

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EVALUATION: There are several articles on the use of autopen which were published years ago. A few include

The President and the Autopen

All the President’s Signatures

In summary the use of autopen for approving legislation, without the president's presence is unconstitutional. If the president is present then it is constitutional.

If it is deemed unconstitutional then it is just as if the president did not sign the bill. However the Constitution allows a bill to become law automatically without the President's signature within 10 days as long as Congress is in session. But if Congress was not in session the bill would be considered vetoed.

Not sure what the constitutional bases for the use of autopen for executive orders and pardons would be.


1 posted on 03/09/2025 3:16:06 AM PDT by PhillyPhreeper
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To: PhillyPhreeper

No surprise here. Biden couldn’t brush his own teeth. Much less sign his own name.


2 posted on 03/09/2025 3:21:01 AM PDT by albie (U)
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To: albie

Talk about a Constitutional crises. One of the walking dead signing everything put in front of him.


3 posted on 03/09/2025 3:27:14 AM PDT by Kudsman (MAGA minions unite)
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Now everyone on both sides will get into ensuring what the true and exact legal meaning of the Constitutional word “signature” is.

Self-evident truths, based on the meanings AT THE TIME THE CONSTITUTION WAS SIGNED need to be the standard. How unfortunate every word in law requires an expanded dictionary assessment. Evil twisters of words for evil purposes.


4 posted on 03/09/2025 3:38:57 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: PhillyPhreeper
However the Constitution allows a bill to become law automatically without the President's signature within 10 days as long as Congress is in session.

According to the U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 7, Clause 2, if the President does not sign or veto a bill within 10 days (Sundays excepted) after it has been presented to him, the bill automatically becomes law, provided that Congress is still in session. This is often referred to as a "pocket approval" or the bill becoming law by default. However, if Congress adjourns before the 10-day period ends and the President does not sign the bill, it does not become law—this is known as a "pocket veto." Your statement is accurate as long as the condition that Congress remains in session is met.

So in reality, widespread use of the Autopen should be an exception.

5 posted on 03/09/2025 3:40:27 AM PDT by EBH (It is always darkest before the dawn. Government betrayed the Republic.)
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To: PhillyPhreeper

I notice that Trump often (always?) signs important orders and legislation on camera and immediately displays the signed document to the cameras.


6 posted on 03/09/2025 3:41:31 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism. )
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To: PhillyPhreeper
the use of autopen for approving legislation, without the president's presence is unconstitutional. If the president is present then it is constitutional.

I'm sure Biden was present. He just wasn't lucid. Or awake.

7 posted on 03/09/2025 3:59:44 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97

Or alive. Trump said so many times.

If you know about the COG, you understand the role of autopen.


8 posted on 03/09/2025 4:05:50 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: PhillyPhreeper

Hell will freeze over before anything with a fake Biden signature is null and void.

There will be hordes of witnesses declaring they were present while Biden was present during the autopen signings.

And having the autopen declared unconstitutional is another issue the Supremes will not dare declare unconstitutional. The Deep State simply will not allow them to do it. PERIOD!!!


9 posted on 03/09/2025 4:20:59 AM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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To: PhillyPhreeper

Meaning the PARDONS are VOID! uh oh..............


10 posted on 03/09/2025 5:01:57 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: UnwashedPeasant

I notice that Trump often (always?) signs important orders and legislation on camera and immediately displays the signed document to the cameras.
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And he does it with his ‘big, bold, felt tipped pens.’


11 posted on 03/09/2025 5:04:13 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: ronnie raygun

Who was behind the Biden signature fiasco? Find out who was using him for four years.


12 posted on 03/09/2025 5:10:04 AM PDT by FreedBird (p)
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To: redfreedom

There will be hordes of witnesses declaring they were present while Biden was present during the autopen signings.
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But the law not only requires ‘present,’ but being so in a ‘presence of mind’ state. After all there is an Amendment (25th Amendment) that addresses this.


13 posted on 03/09/2025 5:10:51 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: PhillyPhreeper
[Dune:]

He who controls the Autopen, controls the Universe!

[/Dune]

14 posted on 03/09/2025 5:25:00 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Angelino97

“I’m sure Biden was present.”

Even if he weren’t present, they’ll just lie and say he was.

It would be so great if 75% of his documents were declared invalid.


15 posted on 03/09/2025 5:29:40 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: PhillyPhreeper

Let’s get on with this & find out as much as we can about the mess that Biden created & could be overturned.


16 posted on 03/09/2025 5:31:50 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: PhillyPhreeper

SIGNATURE (n.)
1530s in reference to a kind of document in Scottish law, from French signature (16c.) or directly from Medieval Latin signatura “signature, a rescript,” in classical Latin “the matrix of a seal,” from signatus, past participle of signare “to mark with a stamp, sign” (see sign (v.)).

The meaning “one’s own name written in one’s own hand” is from 1570s, replacing sign-manual (early 15c.) in this sense.
[from Dictionary daht com]

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“ Signature, a person’s name, usually in his or her own handwriting. In law, signatures are put at the end of a legal instrument to show that it is valid. The most common and readily accepted form is the person’s own handwriting, but a signature may be printed, stamped, or typewritten. Illiterate persons often draw an “X” or other symbol, attested by the signature of a witness.” (1)”
[from lawin daht org]

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Legislative Signature Requirements

For bills and laws to be valid, they do not necessarily need to be personally signed by a legislator or the president. Once a bill has passed both the House of Representatives and the Senate, it is presented to the President. The President can sign the bill into law, but if they choose not to sign it, the bill will become law automatically after 10 days, excluding Sundays, if Congress is in session. This is known as a pocket veto. If Congress is not in session, the bill does not become law if the President does not sign it within 10 days. The President can also veto a bill, in which case Congress can attempt to override the veto with a two-thirds majority vote in both chambers.
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I’m sure some liars… LIARS… darn it, L-A-W-Y-E-R-S (stupid voice to text) will get rich contesting this.

And SCOTUS will screw it up for future generations by finding FOR the illegitimate Pedo Joe Biden/Doctor Jill/Bathhouse Barry Soetero Obeyme regime.

“Hold on to your butts.” [Samuel L. Jackson character in Jurassic Park]


17 posted on 03/09/2025 5:36:11 AM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America ‘tween MD and TN)
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To: iontheball

I am certain the CEO of Sharpie loves to see that.


18 posted on 03/09/2025 5:49:19 AM PDT by waterhill (Nobody cares, work harder!)
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To: PhillyPhreeper

Try to do this with wills or other important legal documents. They have to be personally signed and that physical signature WITNESSED or they are null and void. This is exactly why some extremely important legal documents are required to be notarized. If a family member can prove that the deceased did not physically and personally sign legal documents they are null and void.

If they cannot physically sign it and it is not witnessed as a personal effort to sign it even with an X then they are considered not of sound mind and body. It always comes down to “Can he even sign his name?”. If the person cannot personally sign then efforts to gain legal custody and representation though the courts is required.

This is why there are witnesses at every Presidential document signing. This also raises questions about the integrity of the required witnesses who claim the President was physically of sound mind and body when he signed these documents.


19 posted on 03/09/2025 5:52:24 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Only Sharpies are legal.


20 posted on 03/09/2025 5:59:33 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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