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Update on Delta 4819 - Who were the pilots?
Taking Off ^ | Feb 20, 2025

Posted on 02/22/2025 6:05:48 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

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To: BobL
According to one of the greatest pilots of all time, whoever was flying the plane accomplished a good, but not an outstanding landing.

Chuck Yeager said, “If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you can use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing”

21 posted on 02/22/2025 6:49:11 AM PST by Mogger ( 7th generation Vermonter, refugee in New Hampshire hoping NH remains sane.)
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To: cgbg

Actually, it’s the people who make claims without data that would get tossed in the good ole days. Maybe things have changed.


22 posted on 02/22/2025 6:49:55 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: sjm_888

Female...employer needs to reach a gender quota


23 posted on 02/22/2025 6:54:48 AM PST by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: Vermont Lt

We have lots of data—the airline has made all kinds of claims about DEI hiring.

It would make a great chart.

Before DEI...bunch of statistics

After DEI...bunch of statistics


24 posted on 02/22/2025 6:56:53 AM PST by cgbg (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
interned at Alaska Air Service

or in other words, earned her wings flying in extreme weather conditions. My bet is the altimeter and computer system it was connected to was f-d up or f-d with.

25 posted on 02/22/2025 6:59:48 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: cgbg
One clue is when companies brag about their DEI hires.

Another is the landing, but any landing you can walk away from is a good landing, so who am I to judge?

26 posted on 02/22/2025 7:08:44 AM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". 🔴 Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with MARS ♂️, aka every man)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Well, for handling the unexpected rough landings, the airliner manufacturers need to offer optional ‘lift-kit’ suspensions so there is ample landing gear travel for those Navy style, no-flare landings.

You would notice one coming in for landing, because it’s extended gear would resemble the WW2 German plane called the ‘Stork’.

Just my 2 cents.


27 posted on 02/22/2025 7:11:10 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: sjm_888

The company she worked for, Endeavor Airlines, had a series of advertisements that bragged about their “un-manned” crews. They took those ads down. That should tell you all you need to know.


28 posted on 02/22/2025 7:13:13 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Do the math. L+G+B+T+Q = 666)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

If the plane was coming in at such a fast descent rate, wouldn’t the glide slope lights have been white over white? Rather than red over white at the proper slope?


29 posted on 02/22/2025 7:20:40 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: cgbg

You might be correct. BUT we’ll probably never know it for sure. The airline isn’t going to want to take the heat if they had any inkling that she wasn’t up to the job. The FAA report will probably get spun for similar reasons.

This incident aside, there are a lot of airlines running a senior non-flying pilot in the cockpit to make up for the fact that they’ve got too little experience in both seats.


30 posted on 02/22/2025 7:28:43 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: coloradan

It looked to me like the plane simply stalled too high. Whether it was poor piloting, a gap in the 20-30 knot wind, or a wind shear.


31 posted on 02/22/2025 7:32:15 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Tallguy

When folks—government, corporations etc—refuse to be transparent—my operating presumption is they are guilty of anything and every misdeed they may be accused of by critics.

That is because they can resolve any false allegations with full disclosure at any time.


32 posted on 02/22/2025 7:32:30 AM PST by cgbg (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: sjm_888

We don’t know.

The channel’s host doesn’t claim to know.

But he raises some issues that are concerning with regard to the pilot, and those concerns need to be addressed.

And considering the kittens Juan Brown is having over on his channel, along with a large percentage of the people leaving comments (Delta employees...?), I’d say the host of Taking Off has struck a nerve.


33 posted on 02/22/2025 7:33:11 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

It’s Canada’s fault.


34 posted on 02/22/2025 7:33:23 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: sjm_888

I take it you’re the type that’s not at all sure the sun is going to come up tomorrow.


35 posted on 02/22/2025 7:37:25 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you i9s how they. control you. )
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To: cgbg

No argument there.


36 posted on 02/22/2025 7:41:13 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Yep, since the male pilot was making radio transmissions, she definitely was doing the flying.


37 posted on 02/22/2025 7:50:13 AM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: Gary from Dayton

Usually the first officer is at the controls on landings. More evidence of that is the captain is heard communicating with ATC. The one communicating usually is not flying the plane.


38 posted on 02/22/2025 8:02:04 AM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Pollard

Delta came out yesterday with a statement. Taking Off posted this video after the statement came out.


39 posted on 02/22/2025 8:04:24 AM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: TalBlack

Just a perhaps here, but the runway looks covered in snow along with everything around it of course. A depth perception problem? The plane never “flared” nose up at the end to cushion contact, it just flew into the ground level/slightly nose down and the first landing gear to hit the runway (right side) broke from the force. I’d like to hear the speed at which it touched down too, looks a little fast.


40 posted on 02/22/2025 8:04:59 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Black guy upon receiving a MAGA hat: "MURICA!")
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