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Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy and the Silicon Valley Tech Millionaire Group Continue Lambasting Americans While Advocating for Expanded Foreign Worker Visas
The Last Refuge ^ | December 26, 2024 | Sundance

Posted on 12/27/2024 10:05:09 AM PST by SoConPubbie

Six months ago, I was asked my opinion of the Silicon Valley alignment with MAGA. I said at the time I thought it would last around 18 months and finally climax with a large fracture in the political movement around 2026. I had no idea at the time, the group of technocrats would begin publicly advocating for replacing American workers before Trump took office.

For the past several days I have watched Vivek Ramaswamy, David Sacks, Elon Musk and his big tech influencers debating with their followers about the importance for them to continue expanding H-1b visas for foreign tech workers. It is stunning to see this crew double, triple and quadruple down on advocacy, while defining American workers as inadequate for their Silicon Valley needs.

Alas, it is what it is. Within the argument Musk, Ramaswamy, Sacks and group have presented multiple justifications for their foreign worker assistance programs, while advocating for expanded immigration support therein.

Within the tone of their argument, they essentially say the American worker is (1) not intellectual enough; (2) doesn’t have the right work ethic; and the latest point of justification is that (3) American culture is to blame for their need to import foreign workers.

As Vivek Ramaswamy recently said, “Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG.” Thus, as the narrative is sold, American workers need to be replaced with more culturally appropriate Indian tech workers.

When the Indian-American starts saying Indian culture is more adequate at creating workers for the American tech industry, he loses me completely.

If the Indian culture is the holy grail breeding ground for software engineers, then why isn’t New Delhi replacing Silicon Valley?

Considering that factually the Indian culture is entirely based on a caste system, the argument is even more absurd.

What we need are training and recruitment centers for American students. However, the larger issue within the billionaire tech team advocacy is an issue of self-interest.

What we see in the justifications and arguments of the Ramaswamy, Musk and Sacks group is a very specific point of immigration policy for their subset within a singular sector of the American economy. Perhaps this would not be such a big issue, if these points of advocacy were coming from outside government interest groups. However, with this tech team going into the administration, the influence becomes something a little bigger.

The part the Tech Group do not understand is the core of the American DNA, “Liberty“…

It is only from the position of liberty, intellectualism actualized in freedom form, that the working culture of America, the ingenuity part, can be understood.

If you attempt to quantify Americanism with math and algorithms, the translated outcome always fails.

Dear Vivek Ramaswamy, my counter take…

Several years ago, Florida Power and Light won the prestigious international Edward Demming Award for excellence in multi-platform engineering, efficiency superiority and total quality in the process of energy management.

However, the scruffy rednecks did not blow every PhD intellectual out of the water with slide rules, CAD programs, articulated and quantified quality improvement processes and engineering acumen. They did it with hard hats and dirty fingernails.

Because they lost the award, the jaw-agape Japanese spent 6 months visiting and reviewing FPL and later published a 1,000-page study essentially saying FPL “wasn’t really good, they were just lucky.”

You see, the reviewers couldn’t actually quantify the reason why the Florida-based energy company was so successful. In response the FPL field leadership laughed, took out magic markers and wrote on the back of their hard hats: “WE’RE NOT GOOD, WE’RE RUCKY.”

A few years later, every single Kuwaiti oil field was blown up by Saddam Hussein. Global analysts and think-tanks proclaimed it would take 5 years to cap them all off and restart the Kuwait oil pumping industry. Well, the Kuwaiti’s and Saudi’s called Texans, who had them all capped and back in working order in 6 months.

We are a nation that knows how to get shit done.

A few more years pass, and the Northern Chile mine workers were trapped two miles underground. The eyes of the world began to tear as the word spread. Most began to whisper no one could save them. Who did they call for help? A bunch of hick miners from USA coal country who went down there, worked on the fly, engineered the rescue equipment on site, and saved every one of them.

Yup, that’s our America. Ingenuity born from freedom.

Across the pond a half-breed Islamic whack job, armed with an AK-47 and a goal to meet his virgins, began opening fire on a train in France. The scruffneck Americans on board didn’t run to the nearest safe room and hide themselves amid baguettes and brie. They said, “let’s go”, and beat the stuffing out of that little nut with a death wish.

Legion d’Honneur or not, that’s us. WE ARE AMERICANS! That’s just how we roll.

In fact, Lady Liberty can stroll along the Champs-Elysées with a swagger befitting Mae West because without her arrival, they’d be speaking German in the Louvre. Yet, for the better part of the past decade, a group of intellectual leftists have been teaching our children that it’s better to be sitting around a campfire eating sustainable algae cakes and picking parasites off each other; because ‘save the planet’, or something similarly minded. It would appear, they hate the outcomes and inequities from freedom.

Warmest regards,

Americans First!

My BEST advice to @elonmusk @VivekGRamaswamy @DavidSacks and the Silicon Valley tech elites, is to keep talking. Just keep telling Americans how terrible they are and how they need to be replaced. Great Job.

Every time you guys open your typeset in public, @LauraLoomer grows a…

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) December 26, 2024



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To: PGR88

Trump has always been for LEGAL emigration.


61 posted on 12/27/2024 11:00:08 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: CodeToad

??? An underrun would mean it needs more Indians! It’s in Indian deficient.


62 posted on 12/27/2024 11:00:36 AM PST by Reily (a)
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To: jroehl
Except there's simply no one like Musk on the planet and Musk is an immigrant.
Without Musk, America would still be begging the Russians for rides to the SpaceStation on Soyuz, given the Boeing Starliner still doesn’t work.
63 posted on 12/27/2024 11:00:41 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: CodeToad; mbrfl

Well, then why not replace all American roofers and plumbers with more highly skilled men from India?


64 posted on 12/27/2024 11:01:59 AM PST by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: yesthatjallen

successful companies GROW, and need more people. That is the basic issue, there just are not currently enough highly trained specialists in certain fields to fill all the available jobs.


65 posted on 12/27/2024 11:02:01 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: SoConPubbie

It may be a winning formula for a multi-national corporation, but it’s a losing message for MAGA. Talk about a tin ear.


66 posted on 12/27/2024 11:02:04 AM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.")
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To: SmokingJoe

you GET it!


67 posted on 12/27/2024 11:02:22 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: jroehl

The central Americans have been doing that.


68 posted on 12/27/2024 11:02:31 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: SmokingJoe

BTW, I don’t disagree with you, but it’s worth pointing out that Musk’s mother is American and her family has generational roots here.


69 posted on 12/27/2024 11:04:07 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: Sirius Lee

well.. Trump just won with exactly that message you say would make him lose. Trump said over and over and over at each and every speech that he is FOR bringing in immigrants legally.


70 posted on 12/27/2024 11:04:24 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: SmokingJoe

My mistake. She’s from Canada.


71 posted on 12/27/2024 11:05:42 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Joke post?
Its irrelevant if they are Americans or not, as long as they have legitimate Green Cards.
Say, didn't the Biden DOJ sue Musk for not employing enough immigrants from screwed up countries like Haiti?
72 posted on 12/27/2024 11:06:29 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: jroehl

> I have 30+ years in tech. At a very high level. I cant get a job because all the tech recruiters are Indians. So I am blocked. This is all about disempowering white American men. Very simple, really.

While I was lucky to retire early, many of my (older) former colleagues, stellar engineers with years of stellar work, awards and patents were laid off in COVID times and replaced with cheaper foreign tech workers when things picked up again. Except for one of them, they have not gotten rehired anywhere except as a consultant. One was specifically hired as a consultant at his old company to fix the mess that foreign tech workers made of his elegant, extensible code.

These tech leaders are America-destroying scum, the lot of them. I got nervous when Musk started appearing with the President and damned if I wasn’t right to be apprehensive. We voted for strong borders, zero illegal immigration, and putting more barriers up for legal immigration. I didn’t elect Musk to anything! I voted for President Donald J Trump and his promise to make America AMERICA again!


73 posted on 12/27/2024 11:08:06 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! Stand for Trump or Kneel for Leftists!)
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To: jroehl

Who’s in favor of that? Certainly not me. Reread my posts. Start with this one.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4286708/posts?page=35#35


74 posted on 12/27/2024 11:08:44 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: jroehl

I worked in tech for over 40 years.

A white man.

Could always get a job. Now retired.

Ask yourself, how good are you really? Do you need to upgrade some credentials, or are you still riding on those you acquired in your first decade?

The issue is not the recruiters. The issue is the hiring manager.

The hiring manager wants a CCIE for $80k/yr who cannot move to another company for at least 3 years.

An American CCIE wants at least $200k...in Dayton OH, and $450 in Silicon Valley.


75 posted on 12/27/2024 11:08:55 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: mbrfl

Musk’s mother was Canadian not American.


76 posted on 12/27/2024 11:09:04 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Its All Over Except ...
"Then there’s this... Tucker Carlson"

You are such a dope. You people post links in hope they mean something, but you lack the capacity to bring the content into the conversation and hope someone else will do it for you.

How about a whack with a rolled-up newspaper instead? You and Chatsworth Osbourne Jr are on the same Luddite wavelength, no doubt.

Ben Shapiro: "You talk in the in the book about technology and how it's shifting and taking away jobs from folks and you make specific reference to truck driving and the fact that they're going to be these automated cars on the roads so would you, Tucker Carlson, be in favor of restrictions on the ability of trucking companies to use this sort of technology specifically, to, you know, sort of artificially maintain the number of jobs that are available in the trucking industry?"

T(r)ucker Carlson: "Are you joking? In a second! In a second! In other words if i were president when i say to the DOT Department of Transportation: "We're not letting driverless trucks on the road period!" Why? Really simple. Driving for a living is the single most-common job for high school-educated men in this country in all 50 states. By the way that's the same group whose wages have gone down by 11% over the past 30 years. The social cost of eliminating their jobs in a 10-year span, 5-year span, 30-year span, is so high, that it's not sustainable. So the greater good is protecting your citizens from ... Look, capitalism is the best economic system I can think of I think that anyone's ever thought of but that doesn't mean that it's a religion and ... there's no Nicene creed of capitalism that i have to buy into. What I care about is living in a country where you know decent people can live happy lives."


77 posted on 12/27/2024 11:09:30 AM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: mbrfl

Yes.


78 posted on 12/27/2024 11:09:53 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SoConPubbie
While I've read Sundance often, his "dirt under their fingernails" rhetoric is a wee bit silly. Hard workers contributed to this nation, but so did the intelligent. We need a range of employees and a wide range of skills to build for our future.

If the DOGE folks manage to assist in reducing the size, scope and massive expense of government, I shall be quite pleased. Billionaires without "dirt under their fingernails" and not beholden to the boss for their wages are not enemies of those like me in the moment -- with dirt under my fingernails from transplanting some roses.

79 posted on 12/27/2024 11:13:56 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: CaptainK

He’s a globalist


80 posted on 12/27/2024 11:14:26 AM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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