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Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy and the Silicon Valley Tech Millionaire Group Continue Lambasting Americans While Advocating for Expanded Foreign Worker Visas
The Last Refuge ^ | December 26, 2024 | Sundance

Posted on 12/27/2024 10:05:09 AM PST by SoConPubbie

Six months ago, I was asked my opinion of the Silicon Valley alignment with MAGA. I said at the time I thought it would last around 18 months and finally climax with a large fracture in the political movement around 2026. I had no idea at the time, the group of technocrats would begin publicly advocating for replacing American workers before Trump took office.

For the past several days I have watched Vivek Ramaswamy, David Sacks, Elon Musk and his big tech influencers debating with their followers about the importance for them to continue expanding H-1b visas for foreign tech workers. It is stunning to see this crew double, triple and quadruple down on advocacy, while defining American workers as inadequate for their Silicon Valley needs.

Alas, it is what it is. Within the argument Musk, Ramaswamy, Sacks and group have presented multiple justifications for their foreign worker assistance programs, while advocating for expanded immigration support therein.

Within the tone of their argument, they essentially say the American worker is (1) not intellectual enough; (2) doesn’t have the right work ethic; and the latest point of justification is that (3) American culture is to blame for their need to import foreign workers.

As Vivek Ramaswamy recently said, “Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long (at least since the 90s and likely longer). That doesn’t start in college, it starts YOUNG.” Thus, as the narrative is sold, American workers need to be replaced with more culturally appropriate Indian tech workers.

When the Indian-American starts saying Indian culture is more adequate at creating workers for the American tech industry, he loses me completely.

If the Indian culture is the holy grail breeding ground for software engineers, then why isn’t New Delhi replacing Silicon Valley?

Considering that factually the Indian culture is entirely based on a caste system, the argument is even more absurd.

What we need are training and recruitment centers for American students. However, the larger issue within the billionaire tech team advocacy is an issue of self-interest.

What we see in the justifications and arguments of the Ramaswamy, Musk and Sacks group is a very specific point of immigration policy for their subset within a singular sector of the American economy. Perhaps this would not be such a big issue, if these points of advocacy were coming from outside government interest groups. However, with this tech team going into the administration, the influence becomes something a little bigger.

The part the Tech Group do not understand is the core of the American DNA, “Liberty“…

It is only from the position of liberty, intellectualism actualized in freedom form, that the working culture of America, the ingenuity part, can be understood.

If you attempt to quantify Americanism with math and algorithms, the translated outcome always fails.

Dear Vivek Ramaswamy, my counter take…

Several years ago, Florida Power and Light won the prestigious international Edward Demming Award for excellence in multi-platform engineering, efficiency superiority and total quality in the process of energy management.

However, the scruffy rednecks did not blow every PhD intellectual out of the water with slide rules, CAD programs, articulated and quantified quality improvement processes and engineering acumen. They did it with hard hats and dirty fingernails.

Because they lost the award, the jaw-agape Japanese spent 6 months visiting and reviewing FPL and later published a 1,000-page study essentially saying FPL “wasn’t really good, they were just lucky.”

You see, the reviewers couldn’t actually quantify the reason why the Florida-based energy company was so successful. In response the FPL field leadership laughed, took out magic markers and wrote on the back of their hard hats: “WE’RE NOT GOOD, WE’RE RUCKY.”

A few years later, every single Kuwaiti oil field was blown up by Saddam Hussein. Global analysts and think-tanks proclaimed it would take 5 years to cap them all off and restart the Kuwait oil pumping industry. Well, the Kuwaiti’s and Saudi’s called Texans, who had them all capped and back in working order in 6 months.

We are a nation that knows how to get shit done.

A few more years pass, and the Northern Chile mine workers were trapped two miles underground. The eyes of the world began to tear as the word spread. Most began to whisper no one could save them. Who did they call for help? A bunch of hick miners from USA coal country who went down there, worked on the fly, engineered the rescue equipment on site, and saved every one of them.

Yup, that’s our America. Ingenuity born from freedom.

Across the pond a half-breed Islamic whack job, armed with an AK-47 and a goal to meet his virgins, began opening fire on a train in France. The scruffneck Americans on board didn’t run to the nearest safe room and hide themselves amid baguettes and brie. They said, “let’s go”, and beat the stuffing out of that little nut with a death wish.

Legion d’Honneur or not, that’s us. WE ARE AMERICANS! That’s just how we roll.

In fact, Lady Liberty can stroll along the Champs-Elysées with a swagger befitting Mae West because without her arrival, they’d be speaking German in the Louvre. Yet, for the better part of the past decade, a group of intellectual leftists have been teaching our children that it’s better to be sitting around a campfire eating sustainable algae cakes and picking parasites off each other; because ‘save the planet’, or something similarly minded. It would appear, they hate the outcomes and inequities from freedom.

Warmest regards,

Americans First!

My BEST advice to @elonmusk @VivekGRamaswamy @DavidSacks and the Silicon Valley tech elites, is to keep talking. Just keep telling Americans how terrible they are and how they need to be replaced. Great Job.

Every time you guys open your typeset in public, @LauraLoomer grows a…

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) December 26, 2024



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To: SoConPubbie

For most of what has been coming out out of colleges and universities they may be on the right track.


141 posted on 12/27/2024 12:44:45 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: CodeToad

Boeing is DEI.
Boeing is NOT Indian.


142 posted on 12/27/2024 12:44:54 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: All

Trump gets it.

Donald Trump: “If you graduate from a U.S. college—two-year, four-year, or doctoral—you should automatically get a green card to stay.

Too often, talented grads are forced to leave and start billion-dollar companies in India or China instead of here.

That… pic.twitter.com/ElpR8PFk7h— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) December 27, 2024


143 posted on 12/27/2024 12:46:50 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SmokingJoe
Actually Musk has got plenty of patents.

Yeah, let's look at the names on those patents:

Autonomous and user controlled vehicle summon to a target Patent number: 12164310 Abstract: A processor coupled to memory is configured to receive an identification of a geographical location associated with a target specified by a user remote from a vehicle. A machine learning model is utilized to generate a representation of at least a portion of an environment surrounding the vehicle using sensor data from one or more sensors of the vehicle. At least a portion of a path to a target location corresponding to the received geographical location is calculated using the generated representation of the at least portion of the environment surrounding the vehicle. At least one command is provided to automatically navigate the vehicle based on the determined path and updated sensor data from at least a portion of the one or more sensors of the vehicle. Type: Grant Filed: January 27, 2023 Date of Patent: December 10, 2024 Assignee: Tesla, Inc. Inventors: Elon Musk, Kate Park, Nenad Uzunovic, Christopher Coleman Moore, Francis Havlak, Stuart Bowers, Andrej Karpathy, Arvind Ramanandan, Ashima Kapur Sud, Paul Chen, Paril Jain, Alexander Hertzberg, Jason Kong, Li Wang, Oktay Arslan, Nicklas Gustafsson, Charles Shieh, David Seelig

Elon doesn't invent shit. His H1B workers like Ashima Kabur Sud, Paul Chen, Jason Kong, Li Wang, etc. etc., are the ones who do the work for less wages than an American. Elon then swoops in and puts his name on it.

BTW, FSD Summoning and park still doesn't work correctly more than 8 years after Elon faked the Tesla Paint it Black Video, showing the car parking itself perfectly. Too bad it was completely fake.


144 posted on 12/27/2024 12:52:44 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: jroehl

“because I am a white American”

True.

Everyone knows you cost 2x than the H-1b.

We nationalists believe that the American Tech worker should be protected from unfair international competition...as a national security issue.

That means ending H-1b over a 5-10 year span.


145 posted on 12/27/2024 12:56:12 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I disagree with Trump on this. IMO, the standard should be higher than simply graduating with a 2 or 4 year degree. Maybe if you graduate in the top 5% of your class or something, I could see it. But in my opinion, it should be more restrictive than what he’s proposing. Trump is open minded and can often be swayed on the specifics of a given policy if a persuasive argument is presented. I suspect, as is often the case with Trump, this is just his starting position, open to negotiation.


146 posted on 12/27/2024 12:56:14 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Rule number one: If Elon is opening his mouth, he’s lying.


147 posted on 12/27/2024 12:56:28 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Musk is listed as one of the inventors of this technology, even going by your own post no?
So what's your point?
148 posted on 12/27/2024 12:56:43 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Real Rule number one: If Biden is opening his mouth, he’s lying.


149 posted on 12/27/2024 12:58:10 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: mbrfl
I disagree with Trump on this. IMO, the standard should be higher than simply graduating with a 2 or 4 year degree. Maybe if you graduate in the top 5% of your class or something, I could see it.

Maybe in the hard sciences.

We're not going to need more psychologists.

150 posted on 12/27/2024 1:00:28 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: CodeToad
Nope. We do not have such immediate needs. We already have Americans able and ready to do the job. I've got 40 years in this space and know it as well or better than anyone.


Of that I have no doubt.

It's just that implementing the MAGA agenda means forging ahead on so many fronts and into so many spaces old and new, established and emerging that we just don't have the people.

This is reality.

If you have a ready supply of talent to meet the all the demands we currently are trying to fill even in Biden crazy world, much less Trumps emerging MAGA vision of an American industrial revival you are in the wrong biz.

You should go into the head hunter business and you will make a fortune connecting these under utilized high skill workers with the employers who are desperately looking for them.

151 posted on 12/27/2024 1:05:22 PM PST by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: Its All Over Except ...
I have advice for "Vivek": Open a 7-11 while you still have the chance. Get the F away from MAGA, you duplicitous dot head.

152 posted on 12/27/2024 1:05:27 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and His mercy endureth forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: MinorityRepublican
“If you graduate from a U.S. college—two-year, four-year, or doctoral—you should automatically get a green card to stay."

This is a bad idea.

Trudeau opened Canadian universities to Indians. They were supposed to go back when they graduated. They're now suing the federal and provincial governments to stay. There are thousand of unemployed Indians in Canada.

And keep anyone who graduates? Does that include straight C's? Are they the best and brightest?

153 posted on 12/27/2024 1:11:20 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: SoConPubbie

America isn’t a nation to these people, just an economic zone to be milked dry. Being an American is just a matter of paperwork.


154 posted on 12/27/2024 1:16:16 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: yesthatjallen
Trudeau opened Canadian universities to Indians. They were supposed to go back when they graduated. They're now suing the federal and provincial governments to stay. There are thousand of unemployed Indians in Canada.

That's Canada. That country is a basketcase. Enough said.

Here in the U.S., if they're unable to use their degree, at least they can open a 7-11 (I don't mean to use the stereotype).

We have an entrepreneurial culture that you're not going to find in Canada or the U.S.

155 posted on 12/27/2024 1:16:36 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SmokingJoe; SoConPubbie
You don’t, given you never created even one multi billion dollar company in your life, let alone 7 like Musk has.

Elon is a serial fraudster. Went to school on Daddy's money from an emerald mine, bought his own frathouse with it and also used it to fund Zip2. Elon denies the emerald mine today after initially bragging about it, but we know he had the emerald mine because--besides his past statements on the matter-- he even bragged about it to his girlfriend's, who still have the emeralds Elon would give them:

"‘When we went to visit Elon’s mother in Toronto during the Christmas break of 1994, Elon gave me both the small ‘love, love, love’ note and the necklace. His mom had a number of these necklaces in a case in her bedroom and Elon told me they were from his father’s emerald mine in South Africa—he pulled one from the case. And because I had not gotten him anything as a Christmas gift (and I felt very guilty about that), he said we would consider the necklace an early birthday present for me. I wore the necklace for a number of years on and off, but it’s mostly been in my jewelry box for the last 10 years (always reminding me of Elon, of course).’"

https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/346384406430090-elon-musk-14k-gold-necklace-presented-to-his-college-girlfriend-with-original-photograph-1995/

Zip2 was Elon's first extreme success thanks to the dot com bubble. He defrauded investors by bringing him to his setup and showing them a fake super computer he claimed the website was hosted on. The investors got conned and later the new IT people they hired realized Elon's website was a pile of crap and had to be rebuilt from scratch.

http://www.bhpanel.org/failing-upwards-the-story-of-elon-musk/

Elon has gone through the rest of his career just scamming investors for more and more cash to fund his failures.

Make no mistake: Tesla is a failure. His cars are rated the most dangerous of any on the road. Most of Elon's cash comes from Carbon Credits. His sales are pathetic and dropping every year. The Cybertruck, another epic fraud promoted with fake ads like the Cybertruck vs Porsche race, was said to have "2 million reservations!" but today the trucks are piling up in parking lots across the country, unsold and forgotten.

The Tesla-Semi, hyped as having nuclear proof glass and AI that will know when the driver has a stroke or something, only delivered about 30 of them and are now no longer sold on the website. The internet is filled with broken down Tesla-Semis on the ground. And Elon never revealed how much the Tesla-Semi could even carry.

The Robotaxi is already a failure. Elon promised customers 100% investment returns in just one year if they bought Teslas NOW, RIGHT NOW, as all Teslas would have the hardware to transform into taxies and just make you money driving around on their own.

FSD is still killing people and now Elon has a new stand alone "Taxi" and isn't talking any longer about your 100% investment return on the piles of shit you bought in 2017 or 2018 that was supposed to be a full fleged Robotaxi already by then.

It's easy to start a bunch of companies and hire a bunch of engineers to build stuff for you when you aren't using your own money, and have a limitless number of goobers willing to give you money based on false promises of Tesla Robotaxies every single year, or trips to the Moon by 2018 with rockets that can carry 350 tons of payload, except it's 2024 and now it's 50 tons.

SpaceX's Starship is going to fail too since Elon has already blown through several billion dollars blowing up Starship with no end in sight, and still hasn't met any of his milestones he promised to Nasa. Starship was supposed to be doing moon landings 2nd quarter of 2024. Elon still hasn't proven the thing can carry cargo.

SpaceX employees say they had a art of getting Elmo out of the way so they could do real work, but Starship was Elon's baby, which is why it's trash.

156 posted on 12/27/2024 1:25:39 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

been here for over a decade, and I can guarantee you I am 100% more conservative than you.


157 posted on 12/27/2024 1:26:25 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"been here for over a decade, and I can guarantee you I am 100% more conservative than you."

Thanks for giving me the same lame claim that every CUCKservative makes. You truly are 100% more CUCKservative than I am.

158 posted on 12/27/2024 1:33:34 PM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: SmokingJoe
1. Its perfectly legal to employ H1B holders.

Then why is Elon lying to the public about what kind of h1b people he hires and demonitizing conservatives on Twitter who disagree with him? This is censorship. Many who have been banned off of other platforms have lost their blue check and are now going to be shadowbanned by the algo.

Clearly it's legal, but Elon is lying about it and hurting innocent people on a website he claimed was a free speech platform.

159 posted on 12/27/2024 1:33:39 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: libh8er
Not true. The Tesla Musk bought was a fledgling primitive company with practically nothing in common with today’s Tesla.

The Tesla of today is now considered one of the most dangerous cars on the road, having a crash rate more than double the average. Tesla's best vehicles were made by that "primitive company," and it is thanks to those early engineers that Tesla became as successful as it was.

160 posted on 12/27/2024 1:35:44 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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