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To: 13Sisters76
You want some hard truths about the democrat party? Well, allow me to give you some. I am a historian, and I have the paperwork to prove it and I have been involved with politics since I worked on Reagan's first campaign. I know the democrat party's history- pretty interesting stuff when you get into it. The democrat party has ALWAYS been the party of the wealthy elite- the plantation owners with their feudalistic, two tier caste system and slavery. They were willing to kill 300k o their own citizens and 340k of OURS to hold on to it with the Civil War, and one of their politicians even tried to beat a republican senator, Chas. Sumner, to death on the Senate floor.

Well so much for your credibility as a "historian." You just regurgitated the same ridiculous propaganda that the mainstream has spewed since the civil war.

Firstly, Charles Sumner *DESERVED* that beating. He was a very nasty man that said unforgiveable things about an elder senator, and it was his nephew, Preston Brooks who beat the sh*t out of Sumner.

I read Sumner's speech. *I* would have beaten the sh*t out of him too, if he had said such things about one of my relatives.

Sumner's own friends tried to stop him during his speech, telling him "Stop! They will kill you!"

Sumner was a nasty piece of work that deserved his beating.

Secondly, the *WEALTHY* were the Northeastern power brokers. Same then as it is today. The industrial titans of the Northeast were the wealthy, and they had the game rigged so that the North received 60% of all the revenue from slavery. They were making more money from slavery than the actual slave owners were!

Notice also that they didn't go to war over the Plantation owners having slavery. Indeed, they passed the Corwin amendment through the House and Senate by a 2/3rds majority to make sure the plantation owners could always have slaves. What they went to war over was those slave owners were *LEAVING* and taking their 60% of that money with them.

The power elite of the North were just fine with eternal slavery, but what they absolutely would not tolerate is cutting off their money supply and overthrowing their control of the Southern states.

And this idiot "Historian" is seemingly unaware of the reality of what happened.

3 posted on 11/08/2024 9:01:11 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

some interesting points

where could i read more about the northeastern power brokers and the slave revenue?


5 posted on 11/08/2024 9:35:16 AM PST by joshua c
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To: DiogenesLamp
You wrote: "Charles Sumner *DESERVED* that beating. He was a very nasty man that said unforgiveable things about an elder senator, and it was his nephew, Preston Brooks who beat the sh*t out of Sumner."

So, you think he deserved a beatdown because he said something that offended someone?

6 posted on 11/08/2024 10:23:51 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: DiogenesLamp

Trump just carried out a modern day Jacksonian movement,and Jackson would hav3 HANGED Brooks.


7 posted on 11/08/2024 10:29:58 AM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Ah. I’m very happy when you people expose yourselves. It makes my work that much easier and tells others who to ignore.


20 posted on 11/10/2024 7:39:10 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I read Sumner's speech. *I* would have beaten the sh*t out of him too, if he had said such things about one of my relatives.

I read it too. I was told it was obscene but I didn't find any obscenities.

Dang Confederacrats. I'm glad my Southern ancestors fought for the Union!

25 posted on 11/10/2024 8:22:20 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Thank you.


28 posted on 11/10/2024 8:29:48 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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