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To: blueyon

Apparently 50% pay increase over six years that is being offered is not good enough for these guys.

At some point increased automation is going to eliminate many of those jobs. If those workers are young they would be well advised to get another line of work.


5 posted on 10/01/2024 2:55:10 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

I suspect that the automation issue is the biggest point of contention. Would a company invest in both pay increases AND an agreement not to add automation which would be less expensive and more efficient in the long run?

Biden promising that he won’t order the workers back to work for 90 days is basically a threat to hold the whole country hostage for the sake of the union vote for Kamala. But it is short-sighted because the union vote can’t make up for the votes of Americans angry because there are shortages of everything and what is available is even more expensive than it’s been.


14 posted on 10/01/2024 3:08:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: plain talk
At some point increased automation is going to eliminate many of those jobs. If those workers are young they would be well advised to get another line of work.

I may be with the unions on this.

Should we automate everything?

Right there, we may be at the point where we'll remove 50% of the workforce. Many jobs, you can automate. Soon we won't need computer programmers. AI can write the code for you. That's just one example.

15 posted on 10/01/2024 3:08:41 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: plain talk

who’s gouging now?


55 posted on 10/01/2024 3:57:32 PM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star)
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To: plain talk

After some perceived injustice in the first grade, I complained to my mother. She said Son, life is unfair, you must learn to live with it. I didn’t understand it, but I did do what she said and my life has been okay since then .
Automation is constantly increasing, AI is going to become ever better, Elon Musk has these robots in his factories making electric cars...
Life is not fair all the time for all people... But I’m with Winston Churchill on this when he famously said, “Americans can always be trusted to do the rWinston Churchill is often paraphrased as saying something along the lines of, “Americans can always be trusted to do the right thing, once all other possibilities have been exhausted.”
ut more jobs will be created in other areas. Life goes on.

I looked up at Churchill quote on the ChatGPT app in 10 seconds... 2 years ago I couldn’t spell ChatGPT.


56 posted on 10/01/2024 4:03:33 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavez)
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To: plain talk

“Learn to code” J. Biden


60 posted on 10/01/2024 4:11:39 PM PDT by HonorInPa
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