Posted on 08/28/2024 6:23:02 AM PDT by hardspunned
The notion that Ukraine is/was some small, peaceable, defenseless grandmother, mugged by Russian street-thugs, is one of the best bits of propaganda the Western state-media has been able to put over on its citizens.
Ukraine has been armed with the entire Western armory over the last 10 years. It had the largest Army in Europe. It had (and has) every bit of Western intelligence, NATO planning, and space imagery working for it. Its ideologue Azov rulers launched an aggressive cultural revolution and genocide, declaring that they would drive out millions of Russian speakers and Russian culture from Ukraine. After the Maidan coup which installed them in 2014, they invaded eastern Ukraine to launch this war.
At every turn, they and their globalist/NATO masters chose war.
Jumper: “part of the Russian deception”
And I suppose you believe that the attack on Kyiv was a “feint”?
PGR88: The notion that Ukraine is/was some small, peaceable, defenseless grandmother, mugged by Russian street-thugs, is one of the best bits of propaganda the Western state-media has been able to put over on its citizens.
If you actually read what I wrote, then you would see that:
Ukraine was dismissed by Moscow as "illegitimate" - and Moscow got it's hands blown off for that mistake.
hmmm.. over the last 10 years - since 2014 you say?
What happened in 2014? hmmm...?
Putin invaded Ukraine and grabbed land from Ukraine (the Donestk People's republic, the Luhansk People's republic and Crimea)
That Is why Ukraine has been preparing to defend itself when Moscow came back for another pound of flesh
hmmm.. over the last 10 years - since 2014 you say?
What Perhaps you forget that
most Azov members are in fact Russian speakers and disproportionally hail from the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine. Even more ironically, according to my friend Anton Shekhovtsov, the preeminent scholar of the Russian and Ukrainian far right, “On average they speak better Russian than the Russian invaders. This fact alone dismisses blatant Kremlin lies about Azov allegedly fighting against Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine.”
But the MSM and Zelinsky told us that once the F-16’s showed up it was game over? What happened?
Maybe one more wonder weapon to end the war left, full use of NATO missiles in Russia. After that, there’s only one wonder “tactic” left to escalate to, NATO ground and air forces deployed into Ukraine.
Ukaine would be much better off if it had never ended up in bed with the US. That Victoria Neuland color revolution has costs hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives.
They should have let the ethnic Russians in Ukraine keep their autonomy, and even let Russia establish a land bridge to Crimea.
Learn to get along. After all they are neighbors. A colossal fail for Ukraine, created by the never-ending desire of the neocons to eliminate Russia.
“Ukraine is in the final death throw’s,”
Yes you also said the SMO would be over by Feb 2023..
Cmon guys, cant we all admit we dont know enough to make such predictions?
Let's check in December how well your latest prediction is - or will it go the same way as
"In Washington, and the West, there is a collective admission that Russia is going to be unstoppable in the Winter offensive."
In June the tactical situation had turned against Ukraine. They bombed Crimea resulting in world outrage. This was the end of Atacums hitting Rusdia. The US never approved any further missile atracks into Russia.
July saw Ukraine lost a host of defensive positions, and Russia was just reaching very last NATO built 2014 fortified city... which in Aug 24 Russia has finally captured.
July saw 300,000 new Russia soldiers. Also the Russian drone factory began production of 1000 advanced drones a day. Ukraine lost the positions in the south where they made it to Russian first line defenses, after only defeating the forward area defenses which wore out the bulk of the Summer offensive.
At each month/stage Ukraine lost yet another position that made any future conquest of Crimea possible.
Each of those months marked a permanent defeat which Ukraine could never recover.
My comments probably alluded to these months as being similar to Germany in 1943, or 1944, at different points in the war.
From an overall historical perspective, historians will point to these months as did I, and note each was another recognised place or event which was a signifigant turning point.
Ypu will also see looking back I have mentioned Dec 23 or there actual combat employment of the FAB500s, followed by the 1000, 1500, 3000 which Russia herself credits with the defeat of the 2014 NATO Defensive fortified lines that had held since Feb 2022.
The Russian Fall 23-Winter 24 destruction of Ukraines Air Defense was another long term operation which broke the Western Supply chain and Ukraines defenses.
I stand by those monthly strategic inflection points as moments a certain disadvantage for Ukraine was inflected by Russia.
As a life long student of diplomact, war and history there are moments when one side gains a noticable permanent advantage.
Once the DNC Biden Western firewall falls and information becomes more accessable to the western observers, they will all see what I have stated.
Its over now except for the final annilation. I really thought Russia would be quicker, but they have not choosen to lose their soldiers in frontal attacks. Russia has opted for a stand off missile, drone, FAB and artillery destruction if Ukraine. Takes longer, less dead Russians.
“Its over now except for the final annilation.”
Yes been reading that for quite some time. So do you want to wager when this final annilation will happen? Hardspun says by Oct 1 forr sure... What can I put you down for? Going to check what the bookies in Vegas are saying.
“I really thought Russia would be quicker, “
Want to add
So in other words, you were wrong....At some point one can start to look foolish making incorrect predictions.
TBH I believe I have made one prediction..Ukraine will still be in Russia by Nov 1, or was it till the end of the year? Cant recall...But If I am wrong I will admit and not make excuses like “Putins restraint” or whatever.... Not making any more predictionstill this one pans out or not! Dont want to waste too many eggs on my face....
Just a matter of time. Maybe I was wrong about the amount of time, but not the result. NATO pumped another 150B into Ukraine and shot their wad in Kursk. I would rather be correct about the moments a turn in the war occured, than how many months Ukraine continues to fight. Zelinski is doing his best impression of Hitler, directing forces, no retreats, fight to the last man impression. 2500 Ukrainians a day are being killed with no chance of any reversal of their impending surrender.
Zelinski needs this war to remain in power, plain and simple. If his presidency as dictator did not depend on dragging out the final destruction and occupation of Ukraine, they would have surrendered.
Every day now Russia is crushing Ukriane across a frontline of 1600 km. The lights are going out.
Do your little happy dance on my miss on timing, but remember many of those posts were “if Russia did” and not what was actually happening.
So you Zeepers think Zelinski is going to Washington with His Victory Plan, right. That’s not a question, its a statement of disbelief. Zelinski has no plan, no path to victory.
Biden Harris depend on a positive Ukraine result for their campaign. Zelinski must have war to remain in office.
As I review the list, the war ain’t over. I wonder how many of my predictions will be accomplished or imposed by Russia when this finally over. One thing is for sure, Never Trust the DNC or America, screwing our allies and miltiary since 1953.
“Just a matter of time. “
Ok well what do you mean by “annihilation”? I want to make sure I understand you correctly
And no need for name calling,really.
Let's check in December how well your latest prediction is - or will it go the same way as
"In Washington, and the West, there is a collective admission that Russia is going to be unstoppable in the Winter offensive."
“one more wonder weapon to end the war” - you mean the Muscowites are still saying that after their super-tanks and “supersonic missiles” were duds?
They were doing that - it was a frozen conflict in late 2021
Then Putin invaded and tried to take out Kyiv with a headshot - and failed
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