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Multiple Shooters? | John Cullen & Clay Martin (TPC #1,538)
Tommy's Podcast ^ | July 30, 2024 | John Cullen

Posted on 07/30/2024 6:02:57 PM PDT by mbrfl

John Cullen may have just broken this thing wide open. He presents audio evidence of silenced sub-sonic gunfire, and visual evidence of muzzle flashes from the window of the building on which Crooks was stationed.

Additionally, he and Lee Stranahan have created a 3-D rendering of the crime scene through which, Cullen has been able to analyze trajectories with great precision.

And finally, Cullen presents a plausible theory to explain the known facts.

Major bullet points of his theory

- There was a sniper in the trees, east of Trump's podium as well as a sniper in the building below Crooks.

- Both snipers were using silenced sub-sonic weapons

- The sniper from the trees was tasked with taking out the the sniper team on the roof of the north building while the sniper in the building was tasked with taking out the sniper team on the roof of the south building

-Crooks was taken out by the sniper team on the south roof, before he even had a chance to take a shot.

-Trump was hit by the sniper from the building

Cullen also shares a picture of a possible suspect for the window shooter.

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KEYWORDS: assassination; claymartin; dayvestewart; johncullen; multishooters; nutjobs; secondshooter; thomascrooks; trump; trumpshot
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To: TexasGator

That’s addressed in the video. But I’ll give you the cliff notes since you’re too busy to watch. There was one designated shooter for the President (i.e. Crooks). The other two shooters were tasked with taking out the sniper teams before hand, hence the silenced, sub-sonic weaponry.

Audio analysis shows 3 or 4 sub-sonic shots being fired before the first non-silenced shot was taken. In other words, shooting at the snipers started 4-5 seconds before onlookers were even aware that shots had been fired. During this entire time, Crooks hadn’t fired a shot and was waiting for the sniper teams to be neutralized. Because of the heavy wind and the sub-sonic ammunition (which is more prone to drift in a high wind) the snipers missed but were close enough to the sniper team for them to realize they were under fire.


21 posted on 07/30/2024 7:22:41 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl

Ok, so Crook is dead before Trump, and others, are shot. So Crook isn’t shooting anyone.

The two shooters are using weapons with subsonic ammo, with silencers.

So, where is the gunfire we hear coming from?

Supressed weapons aren’t totally silent, but you sure aren’t going to get those loud gunshots from a surpressed weapon at a distance of several hundred feet. You aren’t even going to get the crack of a bullet since the ammo is subsonic.

In the video there’s a clearly heard burst of gunfire, the shots go on for a few seconds, Trump is hit during the burst of gunfire. People are reacting to the sound of gunfire. Doesn’t make sense to me if the shooters are using silenced weapons and subsonic ammo and are not near Trump. And remember, Crook was already dead before we hear the burst of gunfire that injured Trump.


22 posted on 07/30/2024 7:24:30 PM PDT by Roadrunner383
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To: mbrfl

Bigfoot was one of the shooters.

Prove me wrong.


23 posted on 07/30/2024 7:27:39 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

His fingers are too big to fit in the trigger guards.


24 posted on 07/30/2024 7:31:24 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: mbrfl; All
And they were all lousy shots, because the only people killed were Crooks and a bystander.

Some of this is really silly.

25 posted on 07/30/2024 7:35:17 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: mbrfl; All
Because of the heavy wind and the sub-sonic ammunition (which is more prone to drift in a high wind) t

The wind that day was light and variable.

26 posted on 07/30/2024 7:37:36 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: mbrfl

Isn’t there a possibility that some of the shots on recording are simply feedback? Shot is fired and sound travels to microphone. Microphone transmits sound to speakers. Speakers transmit sound back to microphone. Repeat.


27 posted on 07/30/2024 7:38:00 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: mbrfl

I guess I am not the only one who watched that really long video, and am so upset by all the claims and counter-claims being sent out by those who claim special expertise in such matters.

What has bubbled up to worry me the most, and it was hinted at in this last long video, is that there are “expert claimers” among us whose mission is to misdirect, confuse, cast out false and confusing info, so that we will never find the truth.

I do not know what to think after watching all the top analyst providers right now. This John Cullen, or John D. Hoover (as he calls himself) seems to think he is right and skilled enough to uncover ll sorts of skullduggery, but I am not sure.

Others have reached different conclusions, and I have no blinking idea who is trustworthy, and who might be manipulating the stuff for political reasons.

Hard, for we have lost all trust in our institutions, and now even internet “influencers”, not to mention the easily manipulated technology used to confuse those seeking the solid ground of truth.

I go to bed with sadness that there is no center that we can hold. The final stanza of a poem I read back in middle school....

Ah, love, let us be true
To one another! for the world, which seems
To lie before us like a land of dreams,
So various, so beautiful, so new,
Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;
And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night.


28 posted on 07/30/2024 7:43:07 PM PDT by jacquej (“You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: mbrfl

So, basically it was Colonel Mustard, in the conservatory, with the candlestick(?)


29 posted on 07/30/2024 7:43:50 PM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident)
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To: Candor7

The video suggests 5 shooters:

1 dead (Crooks, before the ear shot),
1 in custody,
1 dead on the water tower,
1 who was in uniform (unknown)
1 who was in a tree (escaped)

My neck won’t support that much tin on the head, but I’m not suggesting that a vast conspiracy to organize multiple crappy shooters and suppress/inhibit the post-op investigation (e.g., zero ballistic analysis on the scene by ATF et al) does not exist...


30 posted on 07/30/2024 7:47:56 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: mbrfl

There’s merit to what’s being said here... and it helps explain why there’s been no series of on site press conferences. Seeing it through the mind of a sniper helps too... he doubts in the right places and supports in the right places. I would also look at the Secret Service woman in front of Trump who appears to be avoiding any close proximity with Trump’s head. If she’s there to ‘stop a bullet’ it would be one aimed at Trump’s belly button.


31 posted on 07/30/2024 8:12:27 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Kamala is the classic “kiss up punch down” boss: -- Freeper cgbg)
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To: mbrfl

If Crooks was taken out as Trump was speaking, then the hidden sniper team had silencers or subsonic bullets too. Would there be a reason for them to have such rounds?

Second, why are all the shots missing the SS/Trump huddle? The guy faking to be a SS guy is in that case a terrible assassin if he missed hitting the SS crowd of people.

No offense to the guest, but people will question the audio because the subsonic sounds can be added into the audio. There should be an audio source that is beyond question. Same thing about the light in the window — that too can be added after the fact.

This is a very good podcast and raises a lot of questions. The guest was keen on pushing his theory, and I don’t know if the hosts were as keen to invite him back. They may have felt they needed time to think this out. I think the guest would have been happy if everybody jumped on board.


32 posted on 07/30/2024 8:26:59 PM PDT by BEJ
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To: jacquej
What has bubbled up to worry me the most, and it was hinted at in this last long video, is that there are “expert claimers” among us whose mission is to misdirect, confuse, cast out false and confusing info, so that we will never find the truth.

Strangely enough I see some disinformation as necessary. Let's say that 60 people know the truth about a situation that's classified - and for good reason. The likelihood that one person might talk is possible. So what do you do? Watch the 60 the rest of their lives? And multiply that number by hundreds - or do you throw enough stuff out there that no one who's 'not in the know' would be able to figure out the truth. Based on human nature it might be a sensible policy. The problem comes when some of that information is in areas that should never be 'classified' and in fact my be criminal or being used to cover mistakes and bad judgement rather than security issues. How would we know?

33 posted on 07/30/2024 8:40:33 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Kamala is the classic “kiss up punch down” boss: -- Freeper cgbg)
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To: mbrfl

Bullets were going all over the place hitting the crowd and then there was one bullet that was right on the mark, aimed right at Trump’s head. Just kind of odd.


34 posted on 07/31/2024 12:42:18 AM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: mbrfl

What are we up to now 7 or 8 shooters.


35 posted on 07/31/2024 4:23:13 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: mbrfl

One fact that comes through loud and clear watching this video is that the business of assassination has become very complicated and technical. Nothing is straightforward any more. I’m now entertaining the thought that this may have foreign involvement with domestic complicity. In other words, a globalist conspiracy. The picture of 47 dollar bills and a bullet hole through glass sticks in my mind. The Satan worshipers always announce their malicious intent before acting out. In doing so, they believe they derive special demonic powers by invoking Satan’s help.


36 posted on 07/31/2024 4:55:50 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: ARW

THIS VIDEO IS IMPORTANT

Number one: Includes photo of a very important person of interest or possibly suspect number one in a very suspicious
“Secret Service” uniform.

Number two: Shows muzzle flashes from first story window where the shot that hit President Trump was fired from.

Number three: Acoustic evidence of subsonic rounds fired that would explain the strange movements of the counter sniper team on the roof behind the President and their first hand reports that the team thought they were taking direct fire.

The usual suspects are losing it on this thread because this is important.

Bookmark this one and share it with anyone that is smart enough to know this was not the work of a 20 year old lone gunman.


37 posted on 07/31/2024 5:28:02 AM PDT by Marcell
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To: mbrfl

Has anyone seen a photo of Crooks’ rifle that allows you to confirm a scope was on the rifle?
No scope means Crooks did not fire the shot that hit the President.


38 posted on 07/31/2024 5:50:20 AM PDT by Marcell
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To: Marcell

Looking at Crooks dead body, why was the rifle so far away from the body? Is throwing the rifle a reflex after being shot thought he head?


39 posted on 07/31/2024 8:56:09 AM PDT by dgbrown
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To: McCarthysGhost

My theory is that the “plan” was to have a professional kill President Trump—all other shots and other shooters (real or potential) were to spray the crowd to cause chaos. A few explosives could have added to the confusion.

The plan was not fully executed of course—that is the way things often happen in the real world.

If the scene was crazy enough the perps could escape.


40 posted on 07/31/2024 9:00:10 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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