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Vantage points of various shooters
Googlemaps | 7/19/2024 | RX

Posted on 07/19/2024 10:00:15 PM PDT by rx

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To: Paul R.
I don't, but will keep my eye out for it.

Potentially even more interesting is the vertical aspect of the trajectory of the presumed same source of the first three shots.

The first shot that is thought to have hit PDJT seems also to have hit an initially seriously-wounded audience member (about whom (tantalizingly) very little has been said), passing through him then atomizing on the railing behind him. That would suggest, of course, it was a high-powered round and unlike what would have come from Crooks's weapon.

If that shot was also the one that first passed through PDJT's ear, and it would have almost had to have had a vertical rise to it, as at least one person argued to be a strong possibility. That, if clearly shown, could prefer a first-story shooter from the front of the same building Crooks was in. Cheatle at one point lied (?) about there being multiple counter-sniper teams in that single storey building, which was quickly denied. So was she mistaken, or was she, like Biden's wont, giving giving away part of the plan that was rattling around in her brain?

41 posted on 07/20/2024 2:43:40 PM PDT by rx
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To: Fledermaus
"The new grassy knoll?"

Maybe but also why was there not a Secret Service sniper on it or at least a police officer watching it?
42 posted on 07/21/2024 6:57:29 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: rx

The first person who even attempted a serious investigation of the JFK assassination was Jim Garrison.

The guy had no clue what he was walking into—the CIA started using his witnesses for target practice.

Anyone who digs deep into this nightmare should expect similar results.

Republicans in Congress are way over their heads.


43 posted on 07/21/2024 7:02:08 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: cgbg; generally; rodguy911; Cats Pajamas; Paul R.; Fledermaus; hecticskeptic; \/\/ayne; Ken H; ...
Acoustic evidence strongly suggesting shots from multiple assassins.
44 posted on 07/21/2024 9:10:33 AM PDT by rx
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To: rx

I want to see the transcripts of the comms and all messages that passed through command and control.

That will break this wide open....because no matter what happened they had to be talking about it...

Unless the comms were sabotaged....


45 posted on 07/21/2024 9:15:12 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: cgbg; generally; Steve Van Doorn; Steven W.; Cats Pajamas; rodguy911
TMCrooks (You know, TMC, like LHO, the patsy) got less than 8 hours out of the lifetime warranty for his ~$79 Home Depot-purchased, Gorilla Ladders 5.5', 10' reach, 300lbs ladder.

Transcribed comms with time stamps down to the second? FOIA, FOIA, FOIA!

I've found emergency services transcripts to be very illuminating when not edited by fed agencies--in the past.

Regarding Joe Biden's Hur transcript: "[T]he Justice Department states that the transcript has been altered..." (JustTheNews.com)

"The transcript is not accurate and was changed in a way to help Biden," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said. "There is nothing ordinary about this, and the transcript inaccuracy issues seem to help Biden’s [and the Democrats'] political campaign needs."

However, this may very well be a factor in local law enforcement agencies having their comms siloed. That is, that could keep transcribed fed comms out of locals' eyes.

Sabotaged, more simply edited, or ultimately withheld as the matter being currently (and forever) under investigation might all yield a similar, effected covered-up.

46 posted on 07/21/2024 6:24:39 PM PDT by rx
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To: rx

Look at Senator Johnson documents discussion of comms and command and control if you have not seen it:

https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/services/files/4E6577F1-8AD2-4CB9-9FC7-5896C27A9647

Take a look at the timeline section.

The SS central command knew for twenty minutes there was a significant security threat. All they had to do was notify the SS folks on stage and tell them to take President Trump off stage while they fully secured the area.

They didn’t do it.

We need to know why.


47 posted on 07/21/2024 6:34:05 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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My understanding is that there cannot have been a USSS single-point failure to cause a breakdown of protection. Standard USSS procedures, honed by many decades of VIP protection, overlap so completely from many figurative and literal angles, that one person's mistake, falling ill, or asleep, or even being killed cannot cause or account for a significant systemic failure.

Multiple USSS share overlapping responsibilities, such that if one person misses something, someone else--likely several people--are constantly surveying the information to find such a potential lapse by someone else or a threat that might be embedded in the ranks.

The rooftop where Crooks crawled into position, shielded by a steep slope should nonetheless have been seen by the person who was supposed to be there, but wasn't. But others had computer screens which quickly would have been referenced to confirm there was an on-going problem, affording another opportunity to fix a single-point failure.

This, however, manifested not for seconds, but many minutes, even multiple tens of minutes, as Sen. Johnson's timeline makes clear. Still, the roof's not being manned was noted, without subsequently being cured. That was likely multiple acts of willful omission in play, as it surely was noted by multiple security (HSI?) personnel.

I believe a scenario fully staffed by fully trained USSS personnel would not have failed. I strongly suspect a spiteful, recently almost-impeached-and-removed Mayorkas was content to be corrupted by an opportunistically-presumed full-immune president, whose email if not signature may have been manipulated by Dr. Jill, the assistant President for email and autopen forgery. As carried by so many media for years, Alejandro could have assuaged himself that Xiao was merely addressing the existential threat, just as many would have snuffed out Adolf Hitler if they'd ever been given the chance.

I consider it likely the USSS personnel resource was placed under a Cloward-Piven strain by events where both the Dr. and Kamala were separately scheduled, in unusually ad hoc fashion. Their "needs" would consciously further dilute PDJT's USSS protection, despite recent, heightened threats from a notable Iranian politician, who offered a $3 million bounty on PDJT's head.

So, then, what likely caused the failure? I believe it was political corruption, manifested in four-to-ten of this scenario's more responsible decision makers. They'll lie, of course, doing their worst to keep from disclosing their guilt, so as to explain the "WHY."

48 posted on 07/21/2024 9:17:31 PM PDT by rx
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