Posted on 07/16/2024 5:13:32 AM PDT by marktwain
The Hawaii legislature has passed a bill that forbids adults aged 18-20 from purchasing or possessing ammunition. It also forbids anyone from transferring ammunition to people under the age of 21. Violation of the Bill would be punishable as a misdemeanor.
On May 2, 2024, the Hawaii Legislature sent Bill SB2845 to Democratic Governor Josh Green for his signature. Governor Green (D). Governor Green has signed several state laws restricting firearms ownership and carry in Hawaii. Governor Green (D) is expected to sign SB2845 into law. Hawaii government is effectively defying the Supreme Court ruling in Bruen. From captol.hawaii.gov:
SECTION 2.
Chapter 134, Hawaii Revised Statutes, is amended by adding a new section to be appropriately designated and to read as follows:
§134 – Sale of ammunition to a person under the age of twenty-one; prohibition; penalty.
(a) No person shall intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly sell, offer to sell, distribute, or otherwise transfer ammunition for any firearm to any person who is under the age of twenty-one; provided that it shall not be a violation of this section to sell, offer to sell, distribute, or otherwise transfer ammunition to a person who:
(1) Meets the criteria to possess a firearm under section 134-5; and
(2) Is actively engaged in hunting or target shooting or going to or from the place of hunting or target shooting.
As shown above, people who are under the age of 21 but who have a hunting license are allowed to have ammunition transferred to them while hunting or going to or from the actual place
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
People 18 years of age and above are adults in Hawaii law.
Anyone that knows history knows where this is headed…do not comply!
For me:
“Prohibited with penalty (fine) = Permitted for a fee”
It still violates these young adults rights.
>>Bill SB2845 goes on to explain how people who sell or transfer ammunition will be required by law to check government-issued identification to ensure that the person receiving the ammunition is 21 years old or older.
Given how prima facie unconstitutional the bill is, I’m guessing that this is the main intent. The rest of the bill could get struck down, but they’ll allow the ID check, and the auditable records of that check, to remain so that the state will have, essentially, a registry of ammunition purchases.
Hawaii is pretending to be somebody
Plainly unconstitutional, on 2 grounds: first, of course, on 2nd Amendment grounds, as there is nothing in the law in 1791 that imposed any such restriction; second; this is a violation of the supremacy clause, as federal law plainly permits those from 18-20 to buy and own long guns (and the ban on handgun purchases by that age group is on its way out). If you cannot ban particular classes of firearms, you cannot ban the ammunition used in those firearms, any more than you can prohibit people from buying the means to exercise their right of free speech - anything materially necessary to exercise a right is as protected as the right itself.
But let’s thank Hawaii’s tyrannical government for passing this asinine legislation, because now it will end up in the Supreme Court and the anti-gun douchebags will be bitch-slapped on a nationwide basis.
I am not so sure - does this law have a severability clause? Not clear from this post.
The first test of this law will sh**can it!
Some of these officials still don’t get it, do they?
Stupid people make stupid laws.
This is the strategy of the anti-2A now. Pass obviously unconstitutional laws ad infinitum to gum up the works. It’ll take years to run through the courts, during which time citizens become disenfranchised. The chaos is the objective until such time that they get a friendly Supreme Court.
Time to raise the voting age back to 21.
...and while they impose their will on those who can’t afford to litigate, they chew up the time and resources of those who can. SCOTUS needs to take a hard look at this practice and institute some sort of ‘express lane’ to stop it.
Does that mean their government will provide 7/24 protection for them?
but criminals can have all they want
Yes but in the meantime, a higher court can put a hold on e forcing the law- they certainly put enough of pres Trumps laws on hold
Unconstitutional and will be struck down.
Time to raise the voting age back to 21.
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Then raise the military draft age too. Otherwise leave them both alone.
The Constitution should tie the two designations together and nothing more.
So the right to bear arms is not abridged, just the right to have ammo for such?
You omitted one thing:
Ratchet up the violence profile of firearms ‘by all means.’
When the violence - and murders - reach a fever pitch under a future dem congress, they’ll launch their next salvo: Tackling a constitutional amendment.
My $$ is that the DJT shooter was/were (proper pronouns /s) a hypocrite whose motivation was to do just that while taking out who he was told (media) was the enemy.
We’ve all been expecting it in some form (and exactly like this: Enabled by the government).
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