This confirms it...... he's done!
To: Macho MAGA Man
Pretty large number. Also sounds like a good number of independent voters want someone other than Trump to vote for.
2 posted on
06/29/2024 10:43:37 AM PDT by
CatOwner
(Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
To: Macho MAGA Man
All that the communist DP can run in is fear and lies.
7 posted on
06/29/2024 10:54:30 AM PDT by
wildcard_redneck
(He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
To: Macho MAGA Man
Jill will not give up on her reelection quest!
8 posted on
06/29/2024 10:54:34 AM PDT by
Harpotoo
(Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
To: Macho MAGA Man
Biden is the most far left progressive loon they have. It’s a good thing if he goes.
9 posted on
06/29/2024 10:56:02 AM PDT by
TornadoAlley3
( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
To: Macho MAGA Man
Another factor, a huge factor, is that Republican voters are much more enthusiastic than Dem voters.
And this was before the debate.
Just based on the enthusiasm factor, there were pollsters saying Trump would have an advantage regardless of the poll numbers (again, this was before the debate).
With Biden crashing and burning, Dems are going to have a heck of a time just getting Dems to turn out to vote. If the Independents swing to Trump in big numbers, it will be landslide.
To: Macho MAGA Man
Conservatives be careful of that poll, when combined with events that have not happened yet. All those “independents” maybe need is just any well known Dim leader besides Biden, and should the DNC arrange that, those “independent” voters may be happy with that.
16 posted on
06/29/2024 11:57:49 AM PDT by
Wuli
To: Macho MAGA Man
wanting him to drop out and voting for Trump are two different things.
To: Macho MAGA Man
Age Reality can be a quick and painful end for a politician or any of us! Wave Bye/Bye, America to the awful Bidens!
22 posted on
06/29/2024 12:09:30 PM PDT by
Grampa Dave
(If voting made any difference, they wouldn't allow us to vote! Our 6th Jan PROTESTERS stood up! )
To: Macho MAGA Man
Poll tells me they weren’t really independents.
23 posted on
06/29/2024 12:49:19 PM PDT by
falcon99
( )
To: Macho MAGA Man
If Jill redecorates his basement like the oval office he’ll never know the difference it will keep him happy and quiet.
24 posted on
06/29/2024 1:26:56 PM PDT by
Vaduz
To: Macho MAGA Man
Here is a link to the poll's raw data:
J.L. Partners Post-Debate Poll of Independent Voters
Here are some interesting nuggets in this poll:
Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?
- Of people who voted for Trump in 2020:
- 73% were still going to vote for Trump in 2024.
- 6% were switching to Biden.
- 11% were switching to RFK, Jr.
- 3% were switching to Cornell West.
- 0% were switching to Jill Stein.
- 1% were switching to Chase Oliver.
- Of people who voted for Biden in 2020:
- 54% were still going to vote for Biden in 2024.
- 12% were switching to Trump.
- 17% were switching to RFK, Jr.
- 4% were switching to Cornell West.
- 2% were switching to Jill Stein.
- 1% were switching to Chase Oliver.
Analysis: President Trump was going to lose 21% of his 2020 Independent voters. Biden was going to lose 36% of his 2020 Independent voters.
Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?
- Of people who voted for Trump in 2020:
- 78% are still going to vote for Trump in 2024. (+5)
- 5% are switching to Biden. (-1)
- 9% are switching to RFK, Jr. (-2)
- 2% are switching to Cornell West. (-1)
- 0% are switching to Jill Stein. (0)
- 0% were switching to Chase Oliver. (-1)
- Of people who voted for Biden in 2020:
- 46% are still going to vote for Biden in 2024. (-8)
- 14% are switching to Trump. (+2)
- 17% are switching to RFK, Jr. (0)
- 2% are switching to Cornell West. (-2)
- 2% are switching to Jill Stein. (0)
- 0% were switching to Chase Oliver. (-1)
Analysis: President Trump regained 5% of his 2020 Independent voters AND picked up 2% of 2020 Biden voters. Biden lost an additional 8% of his 2020 Independent voters.
About the African-American Independent vote:
Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?
- 24% were going to vote for Trump.
- 32% were going to vote for Biden.
- 18% were going to vote for RFK, Jr.
- 3% were going to vote for Cornell West.
- 1% were going to vote for Jill Stein.
- 3% were going to vote for Chase Oliver.
Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?
- 35% are going to vote for Trump. (+11)
- 28% are going to vote for Biden. (-4)
- 13% are going to vote for RFK, Jr. (-5)
- 3% are going to vote for Cornell West. (0)
- 2% are going to vote for Jill Stein. (+1)
- 1% are going to vote for Chase Oliver. (-2)
Analysis: President Trump picked up 11% of the Independent black vote. Biden lost 4% of the Independent black vote.
About Independent Women voters:
Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?
- 36% were going to vote for Trump.
- 31% were going to vote for Biden.
- 16% were going to vote for RFK, Jr.
- 2% were going to vote for Cornell West.
- 1% were going to vote for Jill Stein.
- 1% were going to vote for Chase Oliver.
Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?
- 38% are going to vote for Trump. (+2)
- 26% are going to vote for Biden. (-2)
- 15% are going to vote for RFK, Jr. (+2)
- 3% are going to vote for Cornell West. (-1)
- 2% are going to vote for Jill Stein. (0)
- 1% are going to vote for Chase Oliver. (-1)
Analysis: President Trump picked up 2% of the Independent female vote. Biden lost 2% of the Independent female vote.
About Independent Young (18-29) voters:
Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?
- 37% were going to vote for Trump.
- 28% were going to vote for Biden.
- 15% were going to vote for RFK, Jr.
- 3% were going to vote for Cornell West.
- 3% were going to vote for Jill Stein.
- 2% were going to vote for Chase Oliver.
Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?
- 41% are going to vote for Trump. (+3)
- 23% are going to vote for Biden. (-3)
- 14% are going to vote for RFK, Jr. (-1)
- 3% are going to vote for Cornell West. (0)
- 3% are going to vote for Jill Stein. (+1)
- 1% are going to vote for Chase Oliver. (0)
Analysis: President Trump picked up 3% of the Independent young vote. Biden lost 3% of the Independent young vote.
About Independent Senior (65+) voters:
Q: Before watching the presidential debate, who were you most considering voting for in November?
- 32% were going to vote for Trump.
- 43% were going to vote for Biden.
- 3% were going to vote for RFK, Jr.
- 0% were going to vote for Cornell West.
- 0% were going to vote for Jill Stein.
- 0% were going to vote for Chase Oliver.
Q: After watching the presidential debate, who will you vote for in November?
- 31% are going to vote for Trump. (-1)
- 41% are going to vote for Biden. (-2)
- 9% are going to vote for RFK, Jr. (+6)
- 0% are going to vote for Cornell West. (0)
- 0% are going to vote for Jill Stein. (0)
- 0% are going to vote for Chase Oliver. (0)
Analysis: Seniors are the only Independent voting bloc where Trump is not doing well, losing 2% after the debate to Biden losing only 1%. Seniors moved to RFK, Jr. by 6% after the debate.
An interesting side note is that seniors are not interested in alternative parties.
Conclusion: President Trump picked up votes in all major demographics except the senior voters.
-PJ
25 posted on
06/29/2024 1:28:35 PM PDT by
Political Junkie Too
( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
To: Macho MAGA Man
Independents = mostly voters who pretend to be independent but will vote Democrat 90% of the time. Prove me wrong.
27 posted on
06/29/2024 2:54:19 PM PDT by
libertylover
(Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
To: Macho MAGA Man
Why do they want to dump Biden? All they have to do is to vote for soeone else.
Who are "they" and who is "their voice," eh? Sort of puzzling to me. Independents are just people not identifying with nor participating in any organized effort AFIK.
How can the medidiots claim to "know" what precisely a broad spectrum of opinions wants?
28 posted on
06/29/2024 8:26:58 PM PDT by
imardmd1
(To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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