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To: Robert DeLong
There is a clear Constitutional crisis that now exists

A common way of speaking.

What, specifically, puts the Constitution into crisis (other than the crisis that began with the recognition of West Virginia as a State without the consent of the Virginia General Assembly in 1866).

The State Legislatures will appoint 535 Electors in November 2024, and Congress will appoint the 3 Electors the States unwisely granted them in 1960.

Those 538 voters will meet at 51 locations in December 2024 and will elect the next President.

The blatant denial of Donald Trump's rights under Amendments IV, V, and VI by New York, as well as his rights under Amendment VIII in a prior case, is not a "constitutional crisis" but rather action by a State in rebellion which will be adjudicated in the normal way and Trump will have his conviction erased and his fines annulled.

26 posted on 05/31/2024 7:58:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Jim Noble

The State Legislatures will appoint 535 Electors in November 2024, and Congress will appoint the 3 Electors the States unwisely granted them in 1960.

Those 538 voters will meet at 51 locations in December 2024 and will elect the next President.


Good point to remember. The popular vote tally awards electoral votes per state. The Electoral College on the other hand, awards the votes and elects the President, 270 min required.
Regardless of the popular vote aggregate, let’s hope that the electors comprising the Electoral College are not influenced by President Trump’s felony conviction, and he falls short of the 270 threshold...


46 posted on 05/31/2024 8:27:00 AM PDT by AFret. (.)
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To: Jim Noble; AndyJackson
Criminal prosecution of a non crime of the leading candidate in an active election cycle that is now the resumptive opposition candidate.

The trial itself, was so abnormal from the jurisprudence that this nation has become known for. They refuse to allow witnesses for the offense, the judge showed clear bias to the defendant. His daughter was making money off of the case, and her clients were given special access to the court room that was closed to the public.

I mean I can go on & on.

I am not a lawyer, so this technically may not be considered to be a Constitutional crisis, but that is exactly what it is.

He is still under a gag order.

The bringing in of every thing that should never have been allowed in a criminal trial, where the crime was never really defined.

This was an absolutely corrupt prosecution, and it was being help in a state where a fair trial could never be possible. This is on par with Soviet Show trials of the communists. There is not one iota of difference at all.

The sum of what I have said is totally against what is spelled out in the Constitution, and everybody had better start to recognize this, and treat this as the Constitutional crisis and speaking in those terms. Because the more people that say it is the more recognition it will garner and the more disgusted people will become.

You both need to learn how to fight back, instead of pretending that whatever the legal consensus may be, to make it what the people see as a consensus.

Do not take this to be a complete & comprehensive indictment of this farce conviction. There is plenty more, but I have already said too much for most people to read.

53 posted on 05/31/2024 8:46:18 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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