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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine (2 year anniversary)
ORYX ^ | Since February 24, 2022 and daily | ORYX

Posted on 02/24/2024 5:59:01 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas

This list only includes destroyed vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here. Loitering munitions, drones used as unmanned bait, civilian vehicles and derelict equipment are not included in this list. All possible effort has gone into avoiding duplicate entries and discerning the status of equipment between captured or abandoned. Many of the entries listed as 'abandoned' will likely end up captured or destroyed. Similarly, some of the captured equipment might be destroyed if it can't be recovered. When a vehicle is captured and then lost in service with its new owners, it is only added as a loss of the original operator to avoid double listings. When the origin of a piece of equipment can't be established, it's not included in the list. The Soviet flag is used when the equipment in question was produced prior to 1991. This list is constantly updated as additional footage becomes available.

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To: blitz128
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15,001 posted on 04/19/2025 6:00:31 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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20,101 posted on 09/23/2025 6:49:47 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: gleeaikin

lol whatever helps 🍈 to sleep😂


20,102 posted on 09/23/2025 7:02:14 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: blitz128; adorno; USA-FRANCE

He certainly must sleep a lot, since he just keeps posting the same old boring pictures, and posting long lists of information initially posted here weeks or even months ago, often by other people. What a lazy, boring useless troll, can’t even find new and interesting facts and propaganda.


20,103 posted on 09/23/2025 7:17:14 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question Authority: report facts, and post their links.is)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

“”I think Orban will stop buying Russian oil if I talk to him. I’ll talk to him.” - Trump.”

President Trump is now putting a full court press against buyers of Russian oil - it’s Achilles heel. He is raising the heat against them all, and calling out the weasels, saying flatly about NATO “they have to stop buying oil from Russia.”

Kyiv Independent (23 Sep):

“U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sept. 23 that he would meet with European officials later in the day to persuade them to stop buying Russian oil and gas.

“Europe has to step it up. They can’t be doing what they’re doing. They’re buying oil and gas from Russia while they’re fighting Russia,” Trump said at the United Nations General Assembly.

He also accused China and India of being “the primary funders” of the war by continuing to purchase Russian oil and called out NATO allies for failing to cut ties with Moscow’s energy sector...

...Washington imposed a 25% tariff on all Indian imports on Aug. 1, followed by another 25% on Aug. 6 over India’s continued Russian oil purchases. (Tariffs on China now average 57%, and wide-ranging trade negotiations are underway, including the purchase of Russian oil)

On Sept. 13, Trump said that would hit Russia with “major” sanctions if all NATO members unite and stop buying Russian oil.

“Inexcusably, even NATO countries (Turkey is the big one, Hungary and Slovakia are also buying) have not cut off much Russian energy and energy products — which, as you know, I found out about two weeks ago, and I wasn’t happy. Think of it: they’re funding the war against themselves. Who the hell ever heard of that one?” Trump said on Sept. 23.

The president said that European nations “have to immediately cease all energy purchases from Russia.

“Otherwise, we’re all wasting a lot of time,” he added.

Trump said he would raise the issue directly with EU representatives in meetings on the sidelines of the General Assembly.

The remarks follow Trump’s repeated calls in recent weeks for Europe to cut energy ties with Moscow.

Speaking at a dinner in Mount Vernon, Virginia, on Sept. 21, he criticized the purchases as undermining peace efforts.

Trump also pressed U.S. Ambassador to NATO Matt Whitaker to increase pressure on allies, adding that “they have to stop buying oil from Russia.”

Trump has argued that ending Russia’s energy revenue stream is a prerequisite for tougher U.S. measures.

His administration has also pushed G7 members to adopt 50-100% tariffs on Chinese and Indian imports. The White House says such tariffs would pressure Moscow to come to the negotiating table”


20,104 posted on 09/23/2025 8:48:28 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: AdmSmith

Kyiv Independent (23 Sep):

“U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is set to meet Lavrov on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly on Sept. 24, according to Rubio’s schedule for the day...

...Lavrov’s flight to New York from Moscow took nearly 12 hours as the aircraft avoided flying over other countries before arriving in the U.S., Russian state media claimed.

Ukraine’s allies have barred Russian aircraft from using their airspace. Canada and EU member states have banned Russian planes from flying over their own territory in response to Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.”


20,105 posted on 09/23/2025 8:57:14 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: gleeaikin; BeauBo; blitz128
Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, September 23, 2025

US President Donald Trump expressed confidence in Ukraine's ability to fully liberate all of its internationally recognized territory that Russia currently occupies, following a bilateral meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA). Trump stated at a press conference with Zelensky on September 23 that he has “great respect” for Ukraine's resistance to Russia's invasion and that Ukraine is “doing a very good job” of defending its territory against Russia's efforts to quickly seize it.[1] Trump affirmed NATO member states’ right to shoot down Russian fighter jets violating their airspace, in response to a series of recent Russian incursions into Polish and Estonian airspace. Trump subsequently wrote that he assesses that the Ukrainian military, with the help of the European Union (EU) and NATO, is capable of “[winning] all of Ukraine back in its original form,” likely referring to Ukraine's internationally recognized 1991 borders.[2] Trump wrote that Russia's military shortcomings in Ukraine, despite its large-scale financial investments in military industrial production, make Russia look like a “‘paper tiger’,” and that Ukraine should act now, while Russia is facing economic turmoil, including gasoline shortages. Trump concluded that the United States will continue to supply weapons to NATO's Prioritized Ukraine Requirements List (PURL) initiative, through which European states purchase US-made weapons for Ukraine.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) publicly acknowledged Russia's intent to advance further into Kharkiv Oblast should Russian forces seize Kupyansk, supporting ISW’s assessment of Russia's operational intent. The Russian MoD claimed in a social media post on September 23 that Russian forces are continuing their offensive operation aimed at seizing Kupyansk and that Russian forces have partially enveloped Ukrainian forces in the city.[3] ISW has not observed geolocated evidence to support the claim that Russian forces have enveloped Ukrainian forces in Kupyansk as of this report, however. The Russian MoD claimed that Russian forces intend to leverage the seizure of Kupyansk to attack further into eastern Kharkiv Oblast in several directions simultaneously, including toward Chuhuiv (west of Kupyansk) and Izyum (southwest of Kupyansk), and toward Vovchansk (northwest of Kupyansk). The Russian MoD claimed that the Russian Western and Northern groupings of forces intend to unite the Vovchansk and Kupyansk efforts, which would effectively establish a “buffer zone” near the international border in northern Kharkiv Oblast. The Russian MoD claimed that the seizure of Kupyansk will also support Russian efforts to advance toward Slovyansk and Kramatorsk (both south of Kupyansk in Donetsk Oblast) and seize Ukraine's fortress belt in Donetsk Oblast.

ISW assessed in February 2024 that the Russian MoD likely intended for Russian efforts to seize Kupyansk and the east (left) bank of the Oskil River to set operational conditions for Russian forces to advance into northern Donetsk Oblast toward Ukraine's fortress belt and/or eastern Kharkiv Oblast toward Kharkiv City.[4] ISW assessed on July 12, 2025 that Russian forces likely began an offensive operation aimed at connecting Russian operations near Vovchansk with those near Dvorichna (north of Kupyansk), possibly to facilitate ongoing Russian efforts to establish a buffer zone along the international border.[5] The Russian MoD’s statement confirms these prior assessments of the Russian military command's operational intent.

The MoD’s September 23 statement undermines repeated Russian claims that Russia's main military objective and territorial demands in Ukraine are limited to Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts. Russian officials, including Russian President Vladimir Putin, have long claimed that Russia “only” wants control over Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts as a prerequisite for ending the war.[6] Ongoing Russian efforts to advance into Kharkiv Oblast — an oblast that the Russian government has not illegally annexed and does not currently lay claim to — are an indicator that Russia retains territorial ambitions beyond the four aforementioned oblasts.

The Russian MoD may be issuing this statement about Russian operational intent to justify ongoing Russian operations to seize Kupyansk to Russian society and frontline forces. The Russian MoD has rarely publicized its operational intent as openly as in the September 23 post, and the MoD likely sought to use the post to generate informational effects. Russian forces have been engaged in re-intensified assaults near Kupyansk since late 2024, and the Russian military command may be explicitly outlining its operational intent for the Kupyansk-Borova-Lyman area in order to justify the significant casualties and time that Russian forces have lost over the last year by framing Kupyansk as an important gateway to the rest of Kharkiv Oblast and the fortress belt.[7] It is notable that the Russian MoD did not provide a timeline or deadline by which Russian forces intended to accomplish these goals. The MoD may be willing to share these goals if the Russian military command assesses with high confidence that Russian forces will be able to accomplish these goals eventually, assuming that Russia continues its war in Ukraine indefinitely under Putin's theory of gradual and attritional Russian victory. Russian efforts to advance toward and seize Kharkiv City and Ukraine's fortress belt in Donetsk Oblast likely remain years-long endeavors, assuming that the West continues to arm Ukraine and empower Ukraine to defend itself.

https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-23-2025/

20,106 posted on 09/23/2025 10:22:31 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Russians are using North Korean cluster munitions to shell Kherson.

https://bsky.app/profile/specialkhersoncat.bsky.social/post/3lzjt4jyj6s2j

20,107 posted on 09/23/2025 10:36:22 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: BeauBo
More than a thousand Cubans have joined Russian forces in the war against Ukraine, and the total number of recruits could reach 20,000, according to Military.com on September 22.

The report, prepared by Miami Herald, cites Ukrainian intelligence officials who presented their findings during a briefing with Cuban American lawmakers in Washington. Andrii Yusov, spokesperson for Ukraine's Main Directorate of Intelligence, said his agency has confirmed the identities of more than 1,000 Cuban mercenaries already in Russian ranks. He noted that “Cuba is ranked at the very top among the source countries for mercenaries,” adding that intelligence estimates suggest as many as 20,000 Cubans have been recruited. Ukrainian officials also reported that at least 39 Cubans have been killed in the fighting.

https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-reveals-up-to-20000-cuban-mercenaries-recruited-by-russia-11891

20,108 posted on 09/23/2025 10:42:45 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: blitz128
Russia, in coordination with Iran, is actively recruiting mercenaries from the Middle East and Afghanistan to fight against Ukraine, Ukrainska Pravda reported on September 22, citing sources in the security services.

According to the report, citizens of Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, and other countries in the region are being drawn into combat on the side of Russian forces. Security services have also confirmed that Moscow and Tehran are attempting to recruit former ISIS fighters—a development that has raised serious alarm among security experts. The recruitment drive is driven by Russia's shortage of manpower. Mercenaries are promised financial rewards and the prospect of Russian citizenship in exchange for service.

One case involved an Iraqi citizen born in 2006 who was detained while attempting to cross illegally. Documents obtained by security services showed that he had signed a contract with Russia's Ministry of Defense to join the armed group “Baghdad.” He had been promised between $3,000 and $8,000 in compensation, along with Russian citizenship after six months of service.

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russia-and-iran-recruiting-middle-eastern-and-afghan-mercenaries-to-fight-in-ukraine-11858

20,109 posted on 09/23/2025 10:46:39 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: gleeaikin
Кремлевская табакерка

Philosopher Dugin rejoiced at the explosions in Moscow and the Moscow region and recalled how many more years Russia will be at war. And the Central Bank says that the NWO will end soon

Alexandr Dugin asked us to publish some of his thoughts on the situation in Russia and the world. “While different people in America make different loud statements, I will say a couple of important things. First, I am glad that explosions are heard in our capital. I am waiting for more missiles to Moscow, I spoke about this. I am sure that after that, the residents of Moscow and the Moscow region will stand up and go to fight for the future of Russia. They will stop their aimless peaceful existence and become Heroes. Secondly, I want to remind you that Russia will fight for at least another 16 years. And every year, with every dead Russian soldier, we will become stronger. No one should forget about this,” said Alexandr Gelevich. He also expressed disappointment with calls not to buy Russian oil. “Our oil is as important as the blood of a Russian soldier. It is, metaphysically speaking, sacred. How can you refuse to buy a sacred energy source?” - Dugin was indignant.

At the same time, we should note: a source in the Central Bank contacted us and once again stated that he was waiting for the imminent completion of the special military operation. “We have said many times that the special military operation must end, otherwise there will be a terrible crisis. Now this fact has been noticed by Trump and wrote about it.

https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6213

20,110 posted on 09/23/2025 10:53:45 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Day 1,307 of the Muscovian invasion. 970 [average is 845/day], i.e. more than 40 Russians and Norks/h. Vehicles and fuel tanks more than 170% and artillery more than 65% above average.

2 more aircrafts


20,111 posted on 09/24/2025 12:29:52 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

Man this guy is a loon, oil as sacred blood🤢


20,112 posted on 09/24/2025 4:40:59 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: blitz128

r/UkraineWarVideoReport
17 hr. ago
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“There were more than twenty people. I’m the only one left. I don’t even know these guys.” A russian invader was thrown into a meat assault in one of the districts in the Pokrovsk direction. He claims he’s the only survivor, with no evacuation or communications available, and his fate is now unknown - translations in video.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1noqqn0/there_were_more_than_twenty_people_im_the_only/?utm_source=embedv2&utm_medium=post_embed&utm_content=whitespace&embed_host_url=https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php&rdt=48966


20,113 posted on 09/24/2025 5:44:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Please review the origins of the RUSSIA!!! scam

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Mueller Indictment – The “Russian Influence” Is A Commercial Marketing Scheme

Yesterday the U.S. Justice Department indicted the Russian Internet Research Agency on some dubious legal grounds. It covers thirteen Russian people and three Russian legal entities. The main count of the indictment is an alleged "Conspiracy to Defraud the United States".

The published indictment gives support to our long held believe that there was no "Russian influence" campaign during the U.S. election. What is described and denounced as such was instead a commercial marketing scheme which ran click-bait websites to generate advertisement revenue and created online crowds around virtual persona to promote whatever its commercial customers wanted to promote. The size of the operation was tiny when compared to the hundreds of millions in campaign expenditures. It had no influence on the election outcome.

The indictment is fodder for the public to prove that the Mueller investigation is "doing something". It distracts from further questioning  the origin of the Steele dossier. It is full of unproven assertions and assumptions. It is a sham in that none of the Russian persons or companies indicted will ever come in front of a U.S. court. That is bad because the indictment is build on the theory of a new crime which, unless a court throws it out, can be used to incriminate other people in other cases and might even apply to this blog. The later part of this post will refer to that.

In the early 1990s some dude in St.Petersburg made a good business selling hot dogs. He opened a colorful restaurant. Local celebrities and politicians were invited to gain notoriety while the restaurant served cheap food for too high prices. It was a good business. A few years later he moved to Moscow and gained contracts to cater to schools and to the military. The food he served was still substandard.

But catering bad food as school lunches gave him, by chance, the idea for a new business:

Parents were soon up in arms. Their children wouldn’t eat the food, saying it smelled rotten.

As the bad publicity mounted, Mr. Prigozhin’s company, Concord Catering, launched a counterattack, a former colleague said. He hired young men and women to overwhelm the internet with comments and blog posts praising the food and dismissing the parents’ protests.

“In five minutes, pages were drowning in comments,” said Andrei Ilin, whose website serves as a discussion board about public schools. “And all the trolls were supporting Concord.”

The trick worked beyond expectations. Prigozhin had found a new business. He hired some IT staff and low paid temps to populate various message boards, social networks and the general internet with whatever his customers asked him for.

You have a bad online reputation? Prigozhin can help. His internet company will fill the net with positive stories and remarks about you. Your old and bad reputation will be drowned by the new and good one. Want to promote a product or service? Prigozhin's online marketeers can address the right crowds.


Pic: A Russian influencer

To achieve those results the few temps who worked on such projects needed to multiply their online personalities. It is better to have fifty people vouch for you online than just five. No one cares if these are real people or just virtual ones. The internet makes it easy to create such sock-puppets. The virtual crowd can then be used to push personalities, products or political opinions. Such schemes are nothing new or special. Every decent "western" public relations and marketing company will offer a similar service and has done so for years.

While it is relatively easy to have sock-puppets swamp the comment threads of such sites as this blog, it is more difficult to have a real effect on social networks. These depend on multiplier effects. To gain many real "likes", "re-tweets" or "followers" an online persona needs a certain history and reputation. Real people need to feel attached to it. It takes some time and effort to build such a multiplier personality, be it real or virtual.

At some point Prigozhin, or whoever by then owned the internet marketing company, decided to expand into the lucrative English speaking market. This would require to build many English language online persona and to give those some history and time to gain crowds of followers and a credible reputation. The company sent a few of its staff to the U.S. to gain some impressions, pictures and experience of the surroundings. They would later use these to impersonate as U.S. locals. It was a medium size, long-term investment of maybe a hundred-thousand bucks over two or three years.

The U.S. election provided an excellent environment to build reputable online persona with large followings of people with discriminable mindsets. The political affinity was not important. The personalities only had to be very engaged and stick to their issue – be it left or right or whatever. The sole point was to gain as many followers as possible who could be segmented along social-political lines and marketed to the companies customers.

Again – there is nothing new to this. It is something hundreds, if not thousands of companies are doing as their daily business. The Russian company hoped to enter the business with a cost advantage. Even its mid-ranking managers were paid as little as $1,200 per month. The students and other temporary workers who would 'work' the virtual personas as puppeteers would earn even less. Any U.S. company in a similar business would have higher costs.

In parallel to building virtual online persona the company also built some click-bait websites and groups and promoted these through mini Facebook advertisements. These were the "Russian influence ads" on Facebook the U.S. media were so enraged about. They included the promotion of a Facebook page about cute puppies. Back in October we described how those "Russian influence" ads (most of which were shown after the election or were not seen at all) were simply part of a commercial scheme:

The pages described and the ads leading to them are typical click-bait, not part of a political influence op.

One builds pages with "hot" stuff that hopefully attracts lots of viewers. One creates ad-space on these pages and fills it with Google ads. One attracts viewers and promotes the spiked pages by buying $3 Facebook mini-ads for them. The mini-ads are targeted at the most susceptible groups.

A few thousand users will come and look at such pages. Some will 'like' the puppy pictures or the rant for or against LGBT and further spread them. Some will click the Google ads. Money then flows into the pockets of the page creator. One can rinse and repeat this scheme forever. Each such page is a small effort for a small revenue. But the scheme is highly scaleable and parts of it can be automatized.

Because of the myriad of U.S. sanctions against Russia the monetization of these business schemes required some creativity. One can easily find the name of a real U.S. person together with the assigned social security number and its date of birth. Those data are enough to open, for example, a Paypal account under a U.S. name. A U.S. customer of the cloaked Russian Internet company could then pay to the Paypal account and the money could be transferred from there to Moscow. These accounts could also be used to buy advertisement on Facebook. The person who's data was used to create the account would never learn of it and would have no loss or other damage. Another scheme is to simply pay some U.S. person to open a U.S. bank account and to then hand over the 'keys' to that account.

The Justice Department indictment is quite long and detailed. It must have been expensive. If you read it do so with the above in mind. Skip over the assumptions and claims of political interference and digest only the facts. All that is left is, as explained, a commercial marketing scheme.

I will not go into all its detail of the indictment but here are some points that support the above description.

Point 4:

Defendants, posing as US. persons and creating false U.S. personas, operated social media pages and groups designed to attract U.S. audiences. These groups and pages, which addressed divisive US. political and social issues, falsely claimed to be controlled by US. activists when, in fact, they were controlled by Defendants. Defendants also used the stolen identities of real U.S. persons to post on social media accounts. Over time, these social media accounts became Defendants' means to reach significant numbers of Americans

Point 10d:

By in or around April 2014, the ORGANIZATION formed a department that went by various names but was at times referred to as the "translator project." This project focused on the US. population and conducted operations on social media platforms such as YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. By approximately July 2016, more than eighty ORGANIZATION employees were assigned to the translator project.

(Some U.S. media today made the false claim that $1.25 million per month were spend by the company for its U.S. campaign. But Point 11 of the indictment says that the company ran a number of such projects directed at a Russian audience while only the one described in 10d above is aimed at an U.S. audience. All these projects together had a monthly budget of $1.25 million.)

(Point 17, 18 and 19 indict individual persons who have worked for the "translator" project" "to at least in and around [some month] 2014". It is completely unclear how these persons, who seem to have left the company two years before the U.S. election, are supposed to have anything to do with the claimed "Russian influence" on the U.S. election and the indictment.)

Point 32:

Defendants and their co-conspirators, through fraud and deceit, created hundreds of social media accounts and used them to develop certain fictitious U.S. personas into "leader[s] of public opinion" in the United States.

The indictment then goes on and on describing the "political activities" of the sock-puppet personas. Some posted pro-Hillary slogans, some anti-Hillary stuff, some were pro-Trump, some anti-everyone, some urged not to vote, others to vote for third party candidates. The sock-puppets did not create or post fake news. They posted mainstream media stories.

Some of the persona called for going to anti-Islam rallies while others promoted pro-Islam rallies. The Mueller indictment lists a total of eight rallies. Most of these did not take place at all. No one joined the "Miners For Trump" rallies in Philly and Pittsburgh. A "Charlotte against Trump" march on November 19 – after the election – was attended by one hundred people. Eight people came for a pro-Trump rally in Fort Myers. 

The sock-puppets called for rallies to establish themselves as  'activist' and 'leadership' persona, to generated more online traffic and additional followers. There was in fact no overall political trend in what the sock-puppets did. The sole point of all such activities was to create a large total following by having multiple personas which together covered all potential social-political strata.

At Point 86 the indictment turns to Count Two – "Conspiracy to Commit Wire Fraud and Bank Fraud". The puppeteers opened, as explained above, various Paypal accounts using 'borrowed' data.

Then comes the point which confirms the commercial marketing story as laid out above:

Point 95:

Defendants and their co-conspirators also used the accounts to receive money from real U.S. persons in exchange for posting promotions and advertisements on the ORGANIZATION-controlled social media pages. Defendants and their co-conspirators typically charged certain U.S. merchants and U.S. social media sites between 25 and 50 U.S. dollars per post for promotional content on their popular false U.S. persona accounts, including Being Patriotic, Defend the 2nd, and Blacktivist.

There you have it. There was no political point to what the Russian company did. Whatever political slogans one of the company's sock-puppets posted had only one aim: to increase the number of followers for that sock-puppet. The sole point of creating a diverse army of sock-puppets with large following crowds was to sell the 'eyeballs' of the followers to the paying customers of the marketing company.

There were, according to the indictment, eighty people working on the "translator project". These controlled "hundreds" of sock-puppets online accounts each with a distinct "political" personality. Each of these sock-puppets had a large number of followers – in total several hundred-thousands. Now let's assume that one to five promotional posts can be sold per day on each of the sock-puppets content stream. The scheme generates several thousand dollars per day ($25 per promo, hundreds of sock-puppets, 1-5 promos per day per sock-puppet). The costs for this were limited to the wages of up to eighty persons in Moscow, many of them temps, of which the highest paid received some $1,000 per month. While the upfront multiyear investment to create and establish the virtual personas was probably significant, this likely was, over all, a profitable business.

Again – this had nothing to do with political influence on the election. The sole point of political posts was to create 'engagement' and a larger number of followers in each potential social-political segment. People who buy promotional posts want these to be targeted at a specific audience. The Russian company could offer whatever audience was needed. It had sock-puppets with pro-LGBT view and a large following and sock-puppets with anti-LGBT views and a large following. It could provide pro-2nd amendment crowds as well as Jill Stein followers. Each of the sock-puppets had over time generated a group of followers that were like minded. The entity buying the promotion simply had to choose which group it preferred to address.

The panic of the U.S. establishment over the loss of their preferred candidate created an artificial storm over "Russian influence" and assumed "collusion" with the Trump campaign. (Certain Democrats though, like Adam Schiff, profit from creating a new Cold War through their sponsoring armament companies.)

The Mueller investigation found no "collusion" between anything Russia and the Trump campaign. The indictment does not mentions any. The whole "Russian influence" storm is based on a misunderstanding of commercial activities of a Russian marketing company in U.S. social networks.

There is a danger in this. The indictment sets up a new theory of nefarious foreign influence that could be applied to even this blog. As U.S. lawyer Robert Barns explains:

The only thing frightening about this indictment is the dangerous and dumb precedent it could set: foreign nationals criminally prohibited from public expression in the US during elections unless registered as foreign agents and reporting their expenditures to the FEC.

Mueller's new crime only requires 3 elements: 1) a foreign national; 2) outspoken on US social media during US election; and 3) failed to register as a foreign agent or failed to report receipts/expenditures of speech activity. Could indict millions under that theory.

The legal theory of the indictment for most of the defendants and most of the charges alleges that the "fraud" was simply not registering as a foreign agent or not reporting expenses to the FEC because they were a foreign national expressing views in a US election.

Author Leonid Bershidsky, who prominently writes for Bloomberg, remarks:

I'm actually surprised I haven't been indicted. I'm Russian, I was in the U.S. in 2016 and I published columns critical of both Clinton and Trump w/o registering as a foreign agent.

As most of you will know your author writing this is German. I write pseudo-anonymously for a mostly U.S. audience. My postings are political and during the U.S. election campaign expressed an anti-Hillary view. The blog is hosted on U.S, infrastructure paid for by me. I am not registered as Foreign Agent or with the Federal Election Commission.

Under the theory on which the indictment is based I could also be indicted for a similar "Conspiracy to Defraud the United States".

(Are those of you who kindly donate for this blog co-conspiractors?)

When Yevgeni Prigozhin, the hot dog caterer who allegedly owns the internet promotion business, was asked about the indictment he responded:

"The Americans are really impressionable people, they see what they want to see. […] If they want to see the devil, let them see him."


20,114 posted on 09/24/2025 7:59:28 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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