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1 posted on 01/31/2024 5:53:54 AM PST by davikkm
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To: davikkm

How did that work out for Rome?


2 posted on 01/31/2024 5:59:52 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda.)
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To: davikkm

If they want a military career WITHOUT declaring citizenship... why don’t they join a mercenary outfit and make a LOT more money???


3 posted on 01/31/2024 5:59:57 AM PST by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: davikkm

For this proposal, we need only be reminded of the uncertainty of outcome that came with Major Nidal Hasan.

Nidal Malik Hasan (born September 8, 1970) is a Palestinian-American former United States Army major, physician and mass murderer convicted of killing thirteen people and injuring more than 30 others in the Fort Hood mass shooting on November 5, 2009.

How many more incidents like this do we need to to completely quash this notion of allowing illegal aliens to serve in the US military? They are not and never shall be friends of the United States.

And Nidal Hasan was admitted legally.


4 posted on 01/31/2024 6:01:14 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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"Advocates argue that it addresses the recruitment challenges faced by the military while providing an opportunity for undocumented individuals to serve their country." They can serve their country by getting the hell out of ours.
5 posted on 01/31/2024 6:07:04 AM PST by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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To: davikkm

NO!!!!!

That will give them the ability to create an army of foreign nationals who hate America and will be used against its citizenry.


6 posted on 01/31/2024 6:07:30 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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I would offer three key issues:

1. Just because Jose Sanchez says he’s Jose Sanchez from Peru...without any ID...does not make him Jose Sanchez...prime-material for a Army E-1. Just vouching...won’t work.

2. Will the guy/gal speak English at a level for boot-camp and training required? If not, just how many months will you waste on English train (six minimum)?

3. Finally, you might well go and accept 5,000 initial folks...to discover only 25-percent have what you’d accept as a 10th grade education, while the bulk (75-percent are at the 7th to 9th grade level).

On a direct criticism...once you explain to Jose Sanchez that he’ll be led by LGBTQ NCOs/officers, will this be something that he can accept? With the Latin mentality, I would imagine most will just start laughing, saying ‘para nara’ (no).


7 posted on 01/31/2024 6:10:14 AM PST by pepsionice
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NFW. My grandfather a LEGAL immigrant received citizenship from his service in WW1 in the horse Calvary. This is not the same.


9 posted on 01/31/2024 6:15:41 AM PST by Mouton (150MTs in the right location will not solve our problems now.)
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To: davikkm

Cubans who fled Castro were offered citizenship for serving in the 60’s.

The difference today is that illegals would be mercenaries with a mercenary outlook. There is nothing that binds these men to the US and its Constitution or its people or its founding.


11 posted on 01/31/2024 6:25:12 AM PST by OpusatFR
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Enlisting foreigners did not work out well for the Roman Empire.


12 posted on 01/31/2024 6:26:07 AM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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What cannot be defeated from without can be defeated from within.


13 posted on 01/31/2024 6:36:24 AM PST by Semper Vigilantis ('Legal' and 'Right' are not synonyms)
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That army will be glad to fire on Anmericans.


15 posted on 01/31/2024 6:50:02 AM PST by dynachrome (War does not determine who is right, but who is left.)
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Hi.

Help me here.

The U. S. has always used “mercenaries” and granted them citizenship after completion of their enlistment.

Is this situation different?

5.56mm


16 posted on 01/31/2024 6:57:56 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go. )
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Of course it’s controversial to take scores of thousands of military age men seen crossing over from China, Russia, and the Middle East, train them how to use sophisticated weapons, give them the weapons, and then add them to our military units.


22 posted on 01/31/2024 7:19:52 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The power of the press is not in what it includes, rather, it's in that which is omitted.)
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Fact Check-California bill allows non-citizens with work ...https://www.reuters.com › factcheck-california-police

3 days ago — A California bill allows non-citizens with valid work authorization to become police officers.

REUTERS FACT CHECK
JANUARY 11, 20239:27 AM UPDATED 2 DAYS AGO
Fact Check-California bill allows non-citizens with work permits to become police officers
By Reuters Fact Check

4 MIN READ

A California bill allows non-citizens with valid work authorization to become police officers. The bill does not extend those rights to those without legal migratory status, however, contrary to what is being shared by posts on social media.

The text in one post (here) reads: “SB-960 changes California law so that police officers no longer need to be either US Citizens or even legally in the country. So if you are arrested it can be by an otherwise illegal alien. Gee whiz.”

Another post reads, in part, “The bill makes no distinction between legal and illegal immigrants.” (here)

The posts refer to bill SB-960, which can be seen (here), introduced on Feb. 9, 2022, by California State Senator Nancy Skinner.

“The bill would remove the provision that requires peace officers to either be a citizen of the United States or be a permanent resident who is eligible for and has applied for citizenship, and would instead require peace officers be legally authorized to work in the United States, and make conforming changes,” the bill reads.

Peace officers is a term used to refer to different law enforcement positions, such as a police officer or a sheriff (here).

A March 18, 2022 hearing of the Senate Committee on Public Safety (page 4) (here) clarified that: “Among the categories of work-authorized non-citizens that would likely be eligible are permanent workers (immigrant visa based on employment), asylees and refugees, and individuals who are protected under the Program of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA).”

Robert Gammon, spokesperson for Skinner, told Reuters via email that the claim is false, saying, “SB 960 only allows noncitizens with full federal legal work authorization to become police officers in California.”

This is also stated in the Senate analysis of the bill (here) (titled “08/15/2022 - Senate Floor Analysis”) on page 3.

It is a violation of federal law to work in the U.S. without valid work authorization (here), (here), (here).

VERDICT
Partly False. Bill SB-960 amends the requirement that police officers have to be U.S. citizens or permanent residents and allow non-citizens with valid work authorization to hold the position.

Correction Jan. 12, 2023: Changes verb tense in headline, paragraph 1 and verdict when talking about SB-960. The bill was signed into law on Sept. 29, 2022.

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work here .

Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-california-police/fact-check-california-bill-allows-non-citizens-with-work-permits-to-become-police-officers-idUSL1N33W1PA


23 posted on 01/31/2024 7:25:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trust no one, who is not a proven and valued/trusty one or a family member or a long time friend! )
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If the commie libs want to make U.S. citizenship a Piñata Prize, they should have to have actually served in COMBAT IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY to win it. None of this Pentagon office translator bull****.


24 posted on 01/31/2024 7:36:06 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ( Joe Pedo's America! The Motel 6 to the world. Joe's Border Patrol will keep the light on for you.)
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To: davikkm

France has its Foreign Legion.
Maybe US can have some too?
Send to place no US citizens want to go?
Apparently, retired Legionnaires have preferential shot on French citizenship.


25 posted on 01/31/2024 7:47:34 AM PST by AZJeep
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Yeterday there was a report about Mexico complaining about US milotary weapons in the hands of drugs cartels. Could there be any connection with this and the US military being occupied by illegal aliens? Oooohhhh, noooo —just a coincidence.


26 posted on 01/31/2024 8:06:32 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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Absolutely no, not unless they complete a twenty year enlistment.


27 posted on 01/31/2024 8:11:57 AM PST by Eva
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We could open a military recruiting center in Bagdad,Gaza, Kabul, Lenningrad, .....we could fill those quotas in no time AND more democrat votes!
(Glee)


30 posted on 01/31/2024 10:45:03 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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