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To: BroJoeK

there are also future shipments of existing authorizations plus other methods of authorizing, including Presidential emergency authorities.

There are no funds to ship US weapons - the account is dry for now. Congress has to authorize more funds, all work arounds are spent.

Ukraine is broke the government, has no funds to buy anything which is why they have been getting financial aid

The rest of your post is made up or Russian Propaganda


23 posted on 01/14/2024 6:45:34 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF
PIF: "There are no funds to ship US weapons - the account is dry for now.
Congress has to authorize more funds, all work arounds are spent."

If you say so, but there is also a presidential emergency authorization fund of several billions which could be drawn on in a genuine emergency.
On can also imagine work-arounds that pre-position supplies in nearby NATO countries, ready for immediate release when authorizations are finally received.

Point is, I seriously doubt if the situation is 100% hopeless, though it does sort of remind me historically of Washington's winter at Valley Forge, 1776 to 1777.
In Thomas Paine's words...

PIF: "Ukraine is broke the government, has no funds to buy anything which is why they have been getting financial aid"

Ukraine does have an actual 2024 federal budget, iirc, about 40% of its GDP overall, of which roughly half or $50 billion is devoted to its military.
This compares to Russia's published 2024 military budget of $112 billion for 2024, though all such numbers could be meaningless.
My only point here is that all budgets include emergency funds that can be used, for example, to resupply stocks of air-defense missiles, which is what may be reported on here --

PIF: "The rest of your post is made up or Russian Propaganda"

Hmmmm... that's the first time I've been accused of using Russian propaganda, and I'm not quite sure how I feel about it. 😊

Actually, the only estimate I made up is the potentially $50 billion from "all other sources", meaning non-NATO governments, NGOs and private individuals.
I based this on the published number of $350 billion as the total so far committed to Ukraine from all sources worldwide, of which we know about $100 billion was from the USA, another ~100 billion from EU countries, leaving circa $150 billion from... where?

That is the source for my 2024 estimate of possibly $50 billion in non-US, non-EU aid for Ukraine.

Bottom line -- if there is any Russian propaganda inadvertently mixed in with my analysis, I'm not aware of it, and will be most curious to learn what that might be.

26 posted on 01/15/2024 12:56:15 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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