The natural-born citizen issue died on Inauguration Day, 2009.
That’s how I always understood it. Your parents have to be citizens and you must be born here. Kenyan birth certificates are often mistaken for US, but if you have one from Hawaii, you are in like Flynn.
“natural born” = not born by C-Section.
“Nikki and Vivek are not natural born Citizens.”
One little, two little Indians. They need to drop out. Nimrata should find a nice little city library to work in. Vivek could be valuable as a Trump appointee in a position not in the line of succession for POTUS.
Nimarata and Vivek ain’t NBC.
But guess who is, and the child of Immigrant Parents who became citizens before he was born?
Yep. Our very own PDJT, The GOAT.
Natural Born means there is no question.
Born of 2 Non-Citizen parents, there can always be questions.
Yep.
Already had one illegal president ignoring this law.
“The former term, he reminds us, is expressly reserved for those born on American soil to U.S. citizen parents...”
HOGWASH! That definition came from Vattel, but Vattel did NOT address “Natural Born Citizens” but instead used “indigenes” - indigenous people.
It wasn’t until AFTER the US Constitution was written that an American translation decided to translate “indigene” - an English word as well as French - with “NBC”. So that definition was NOT what the Founders had in mind!
Nikki’s not eligible? Works for me.
The reason is simple. There is no case to bring. Under current US law, Haley and Ramaswamy are NBCs.
All the historical arguments and cherry picking from past and current law do not change the whole of US law.
Are you an American citizen? Then yes. You are qualified to be the president.
Even Schwarzenegger if he was popular enough.
Prove me wrong.
Exactly right.
No foreign spice please.
Plain vanilla U.S. Americans only for POTUS.
(Standard disclaimers made to account for Mexico being the world’s largest source of vanilla spice.)
Or an amendment (cough...cough...a glorified naturalization statute) to COTUS.
It disqualified the Kenyan too, along with our present VP. But nobody cares about that.
clearly needs to be adjudicated
based on the posts here
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Mr. Ingrassia is entitled to his opinion, but the chance that his opinion will win in court is zero. The courts will rule that anyone who is a US citizen at birth is a natural born citizen.
If a statute has to make you a citizen, that's not natural born.
14A is not a statute and it made Arthur, Obama, Harris, Haley, and Ramaswamy natural born citizens at birth.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside."
Wong Kim Ark at 169 U.S. 662-63:
In United States v. Rhodes (1866), Mr. Justice Swayne, sitting in the Circuit Court, said: "All persons born in the allegiance of the King are natural-born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens.
https://fam.state.gov/FAM/08FAM/08FAM030101.html#M301_1_1
[State Department, Foreign Affairs Manual]
8 FAM 301.1-1 INTRODUCTION
c. Naturalization – Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship Subsequent to Birth: Naturalization is “the conferring of nationality of a State upon a person after birth, by any means whatsoever” (INA 101(a)(23) (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(23)) or conferring of citizenship upon a person (see INA 310, 8 U.S.C. 1421 and INA 311, 8 U.S.C. 1422). Naturalization can be granted automatically or pursuant to an application. (See 7 FAM 1140.)d. “Subject to the Jurisdiction of the United States”: All children born in and subject, at the time of birth, to the jurisdiction of the United States acquire U.S. citizenship at birth even if their parents were in the United States illegally at the time of birth:
(1) The U.S. Supreme Court examined at length the theories and legal precedents on which the U.S. citizenship laws are based in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898). In particular, the Court discussed the types of persons who are subject to U.S. jurisdiction. The Court affirmed that a child born in the United States to Chinese parents acquired U.S. citizenship even though the parents were, at the time, racially ineligible for naturalization;
(2) The Court also concluded that: “The 14th Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The Amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born within the territory of the United States, of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States.” Pursuant to this ruling:
(a) Acquisition of U.S. citizenship generally is not affected by the fact that the parents may be in the United States temporarily or illegally; and that; and
(b) A child born in an immigration detention center physically located in the United States is considered to have been born in the United States and be subject to its jurisdiction. This is so even if the child’s parents have not been legally admitted to the United States and, for immigration purposes, may be viewed as not being in the United States.
I want to see this guy’s analysis of Barack Hussein 0bama’s eligibility before I read anything else he has to say.
No difference between natural born and birthright citizenship.
I’m not saying Haley is or isn’t.