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“Form SIX” is causing corrupt government elected officials to flee their offices in Florida.
Citizen Watch Report ^

Posted on 12/31/2023 8:27:54 AM PST by davikkm

While the wave of resignations among Florida officials in response to the impending law highlights concerns about privacy, it’s crucial to recognize the potential anti-corruption benefits of the legislation. Requiring financial disclosures through Form 6 can be a powerful tool in enhancing transparency and accountability within the government. By scrutinizing officials’ financial activities, the law aims to bolster anti-corruption measures, fostering public trust and maintaining the integrity of elected positions. Despite valid privacy concerns, the overarching objective of combating corruption underscores the need to strike a delicate balance between transparency and individual rights for the greater good of a well-functioning democracy.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: florida; formsix
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To: davikkm

At the very least, people running for office should have to state their net worth at election & then provide FULL TRANSPARENCY on all gains while in office.

I’ve always believed legislators should not be allowed to own individual stocks while in office. Move all to a general mutual fund & leave it there until you’re out of office. Of course, they may still benefit family members with their in-office activities. Hard to do something about that.


21 posted on 12/31/2023 10:20:28 AM PST by Twotone (I used to worry there'd be a civil war. Now I worry there won't be. - Mark Steyn)
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To: Twotone

I’ve always believed legislators should not be allowed to own individual stocks while in office. Move all to a general mutual fund & leave it there until you’re out of office. Of course, they may still benefit family members with their in-office activities.


So your first proposal doesn’t really solve the problem as you state later.

Is there a better solution?


22 posted on 12/31/2023 10:22:42 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: davikkm

If they’re very corrupt they learned a long time ago how to avoid being discovered. The worst ones will be fine. The small-potatoes grifters will be found out.


23 posted on 12/31/2023 10:28:40 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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To: PeterPrinciple

Is there a better solution?

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Make the families of elected officials divulge their fiscal situation? I don’t see that happening.

How about we limit government & stop letting elected officials inappropriately impact the economy with all of the legislation they pass every year? Would that do the trick?

Not likely to happen, so that doesn’t solve anything either.


24 posted on 12/31/2023 10:34:57 AM PST by Twotone (I used to worry there'd be a civil war. Now I worry there won't be. - Mark Steyn)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Military members going for high level security clearances have to reveal everything for the SSBI. TS/SCI even moreso, the slightest infraction that resulted in a police response, you know that college party where 1 or 2 out of 50 got yanked, bit everyone’s ID was checked? List it.

Civilians in Gov’t are so coddled it’s laughable but disgusting at the same time. Civil service unions are to blame. And civil servents with high clearances are barred from joining Gov’t unions.


25 posted on 12/31/2023 10:59:41 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Clutch Martin
Military members going for high level security clearances have to reveal everything for the SSBI. TS/SCI even moreso, the slightest infraction that resulted in a police response, you know that college party where 1 or 2 out of 50 got yanked, bit everyone’s ID was checked? List it.

Yea, but that's not publicly available information. And the people looking at it tend to be much more trustworthy that random low-level clerks or whatnot.
26 posted on 12/31/2023 11:26:49 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Alberta's Child
In my town

In Zambia?

That's of little relevance to these United States of America.

27 posted on 12/31/2023 11:30:13 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: PeterPrinciple
I’ve always believed legislators should not be allowed to own individual stocks while in office. Move all to a general mutual fund & leave it there until you’re out of office.

What about the guy that started a company, then kept stock in it? Or partially owns some company but not publicly traded and therefore isn't technically stocks? Employee-stock owned plans? What if he likes a company but it's going to be impossible to rebuy those specific stocks in two/four/six years? What about the guy that likes investing and owns tens or hundreds of individual stocks on his own? Really, they simply shouldn't be voting on anything that's steering money directly to their companies, at all, much less as a conflict-of-interest issue.
28 posted on 12/31/2023 11:39:14 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Svartalfiar

Really, they simply shouldn’t be voting on anything that’s steering money directly to their companies, at all, much less as a conflict-of-interest issue.


I don’t disagree with that, I am discussing the METHOD. Do you really think another law will fix it?

That is the whole problem. laws are enslavement. another and another. But “conservatives” say our laws are better. They are all bypassed and enslave honest people.

So what is a better solution?


29 posted on 12/31/2023 11:47:56 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Twotone

We have this backwards.

All politicians should serve their legislative terms in prison—and conduct business from there.

When they are ready to retire they have to prove they did not steal or they stay in prison.

;-)


30 posted on 12/31/2023 11:52:03 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: cgbg

I like that idea! :-)


31 posted on 12/31/2023 11:59:20 AM PST by Twotone (I used to worry there'd be a civil war. Now I worry there won't be. - Mark Steyn)
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To: Twotone

So, there is no perfect solution is there?

Note the word PERFECT.

Corruption can never be eliminated but it is the nature of man. But it can be reduced.

1) There are things that can be done to reduce it as our Founding Fathers designed. They were big believers in state and local power. It was closer to use to change things.

Define the problem well. It is the centralized govt that is the problem. It is better to have 10 corrupt states and 40 states really solving problems. Competition among states for ideas and let the market decide. eventually the corrupt ones will kill themselves as most parisites do. We then rebuild, that is the nature of history.

The best think that could happen is that our centralized govt go bankrupt and power goes back to the states. Will that eliminate corruption, Hell no. But it is closer to us to control.

In the meantime, do what you can to move power back to the states and your local community. It is a long battle to change things, it will take a generation.

IGNORE THE FED GOVT and their laws. Some states are doing this now.

2) Shine the light on corruption. It used to be a free press that did this. We can create a free press. Will take a lot of time and warriors to do this. It being done now. Support them.

3) Personally, you educate ONE person in your life, and then you find another. We have this problem because we did not educate the next generation.

4) Other ideas?


32 posted on 12/31/2023 12:09:12 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Apparently you would have to report everything you own that’s worth more than $1,000.

Kind of like a shopping list for thieves.


33 posted on 12/31/2023 12:13:34 PM PST by steve in DC
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To: Svartalfiar

“Yea, but that’s not publicly available information.”

Um... “The U.S. Postal Service and the Office of Personnel Management had a combined nearly 82 million records compromised in the two largest all-government data breaches since 2014, according to the report compiled by Comparitech, a consumer-aid website that conducts research uncovering cyber security breaches.”

And “Since assuming responsibility for DOD’s personnel security investigations program in FY 2005, OPM now provides over 90% of the background investigations required by the Federal Government.”

So it’s not exactly secure information any longer.


34 posted on 12/31/2023 12:15:59 PM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: steve in DC

“Kind of like a shopping list for thieves.”

My thought, too.


35 posted on 12/31/2023 12:19:16 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: metmom

You take a local, state or federal paycheck, and have agency administration or legislative power and responsibility-your life financially should be an open book for your voters for the duration of your tenure. It would promote true “public service”

All of our problems in contemporary government would come to a grinding halt


36 posted on 12/31/2023 12:31:25 PM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: davikkm

Requiring financial disclosures through Form 6 can be a powerful tool in enhancing transparency and accountability.

Democrats will be looking like rats deserting a sinking ship Pelosi and her old man just make a deal in the market wonder if she will bail.


37 posted on 12/31/2023 2:23:50 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

So you don’t think ppl who enter public service/government on a 120K salary and retire as multi-millionaires is suspect?

I think it’s a huge issue. Like #1, above everything else.

If you have unexplained wealth in government it’s considered defacto evidence of corruption, bribery, racketeering or foreign influence. Good luck gaining or keeping a security clearance.

Corruption is rampant in developing states and counties. Why are Floridians paying higher property taxes and insurance? When the counties are adding +20% homes every year the property taxes should not be going up 30%. Public levees should reduce with growth.


38 posted on 12/31/2023 3:24:13 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: NorthMountain

I don’t live in Zambia. I put that on my profile page because I got tired of dealing with Freepers who thought my home state somehow affected my credibility to discuss any given topic.


39 posted on 12/31/2023 4:30:08 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“tired of dealing with Freepers who thought my home state somehow affected my credibility to discuss any given topic.”

Lol.

I have lived in CT, MA, TX, CA, and ME—and now live in CT again where I was born.

I am sure some of that triggers somebody.

;-)


40 posted on 12/31/2023 4:35:15 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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