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1 posted on 07/31/2023 5:57:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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“Whatever could it be?”

Your linked study says COVID related.


50 posted on 07/31/2023 6:57:23 PM PDT by TexasGator
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Vaccination status should provide a clue.

As for timing, I don’t remember the timing of events. Different sources, remember it differently.

The vaccine was passed off as just another vaccine, safe and effective. It’s clear the mRNA “vaccine” was not just another vaccine. People were misled. The technology is different - it is different. It was not a traditional vaccine. It was an experimental vaccine. It was that was not fully tested prior to release. How could anyone say that an experimental vaccine, not fully tested, is safe and effective? There was no informed consent. That is damning.

“Cause Unknown” The epidemic of Sudden Deaths in 2021 and 2022, by Edward Dowd is a good book. I’m only halfway through it as the topic is so depressing.

HCQ and Ivermectin were fully tested in their day, unlike the mRNA shots.


52 posted on 07/31/2023 7:03:36 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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Not only are Doctors puzzled but the Marxist State Media also.


72 posted on 07/31/2023 8:00:28 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To be fair, fast food ordering skyrocketed during the last few years...


73 posted on 07/31/2023 8:08:57 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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Increase in 30 per cent since when? 2020? 2021?
What could have changed since then?
Covid pandemic?
Covid Jab?

I know what I think it is...


74 posted on 07/31/2023 8:11:13 PM PDT by CPT Clay
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Whatever could it be?

Climate change.

76 posted on 07/31/2023 8:31:19 PM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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"Whatever could it be?"

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Baffling.

79 posted on 07/31/2023 8:46:28 PM PDT by Neanderthal ("Knowledge is good" - Emil Faber)
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I’m sure its not the vaxx or anything. 🙄


81 posted on 07/31/2023 9:04:46 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a combination of racism & homophobia...


82 posted on 07/31/2023 9:31:09 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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“Whatever could it be?”

That’s easy enough to answer. You could try actually reading the paper that the InfoWars writer links to in the article that you posted.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9839603/

You probably won’t like what it says since the one thing never mentioned at all as a possible cause are the Covid vaccines.

But then what would the research scientist doing the study know anyway, compared to InfoWars?

Here’s what the study has to say about possible causes:

“The exact drivers of excess ischemic heart disease mortality seen during the pandemic remain unclear, although many probable and potential causes have been identified. For instance, there is now abundant evidence of how patients with pre-existing or newly developed cardiovascular conditions have experienced gaps and delays in access to care, especially during periods of COVID-19 surge.

Additionally, mounting data demonstrates that a proportion of COVID-19-affected individuals are at increased risk for thrombogenic events, including acute coronary events, either during or following the acute infection phase.

It is also possible that the excess in cardiovascular risks observed during earlier phases of the pandemic was associated to generally more severe COVID-19 illness caused by more virulent variants of SARS-CoV-2.

To further understand the nature and potential origins of excess mortality attributed to ischemic heart disease during the pandemic and their changes over time, we analyzed national vital statistics data to comprehensively examine and compare temporal trends in mortality rates across demographic groups and geographic regions in the United States.

“As shown in recent reports,18 the pandemic can augment absolute differences in outcomes in certain population subsets while augmenting relative differences in outcomes in others.

Accordingly, we found that although older compared to younger adults continued to experience the greatest absolute magnitudes of excess AMI risk during the pandemic; younger adults experienced the greatest relative increase in excess AMI-associated mortality. Notably, the death rate increased more in males than females when considered in either absolute or relative terms, particularly during the fourth and most recent epoch.

Importantly, even while AMI-associated mortality rates have recently overall improved along with trends in all-cause mortality during the pandemic, yet the relative disparity in excess AMI-associated deaths among certain at-risk subgroups such as younger aged males has persisted.

“There are several potential explanations for the increased AMI-associated mortality excess in patients with COVID-19. Typically, AMI and cardiovascular death typically do not present until years to decades after de novo development or worsening of pre-existing risk factors.

However, SARS-CoV-2 infection may activate or accelerate the development of pre-existing subclinical coronary artery disease, which may be prevalent, particularly among younger-aged men with clustering of cardiometabolic risk factors.

While de novo rapid development of AMI during or after SARS-CoV-2 infection is likely to be uncommon; such cases have been reported among individuals without known pre-existing cardiovascular risk traits – especially males affected by more severe forms of COVID-19 illness.

Proposed mechanisms for the thrombogenicity associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection include downregulation of angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE-2), leading to dysregulation of the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system, oxidative stress damage, endothelial cell dysfunction, and complement-mediated coagulopathy and microangiopathy.

Studies have consistently shown that males, independent of age, are more likely to develop more severe forms of SARS-CoV-2 infection than females. This male bias could have contributed to the predominance of excess AMI-associated mortality seen among males in our analyses.

Psychological stressors associated with the pandemic may have also played a role in triggering events leading to excess AMI-associated mortality. Mental stress-induced ischemia has been shown to be associated with worse cardiovascular outcomes and disproportionately affects young women, which could contribute to the excess of AMI-associated mortality seen among young females in our analyses.

Indeed, the effects of social distancing and stay-at-home mandates, reductions in outpatient visits and rehabilitation services, and deferment of elective procedures are all likely to have contributed to the overall excess of AMI-associated deaths during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Importantly, however, we observed improved and yet persistent relative excess in AMI-associated deaths even as health delivery services have adapted to manage care during the most recent surge of the generally less virulent Omicron variant of SARS-CoV-2.


83 posted on 07/31/2023 10:22:54 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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According to the actual data, the jump in heart mortality began after October 2020 — a year after the virus had been around, but just when the vaccines became available. You decide.


90 posted on 08/01/2023 5:15:10 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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A large % most likely from vaccine, but also, today’s folks are way more sedentary, and eat junk food like it’s going out of style, BUT you wouldn’t expect to see heart problems at such young ages, so once again, the 30% is most likely due to the vaccines. Some “may be” associated with being overweight and not active.


94 posted on 08/01/2023 6:08:38 AM PDT by Bob434
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(Whatever could it be?)

Global Warming?

The New Ice Age?

Misuse of Pronouns?


95 posted on 08/01/2023 6:10:03 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Probably a combination of both Covid and the jab.


99 posted on 08/01/2023 6:19:13 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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Science is studying the impacts of Covid but not the shot…

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34555203/


101 posted on 08/01/2023 6:25:28 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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In the not too distant future..an ounce of non jabbed “blueblood” will be worth more than gold.
There is already a blood bank storing non jabbed blood for the exclusive use of the donor or designated person.


105 posted on 08/01/2023 6:59:22 AM PDT by SpokeshaveReturns (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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Thank you Lord for guiding my family away from this evil.


108 posted on 08/01/2023 7:16:58 AM PDT by stevio (Fight until you die.)
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It is possible Covid itself and the vaccine are contributors to the increase in heart related illness. Unfortunately the normal long term scientific trials were not run for the vaccine and the control groups in the initial trials were not continued due to the pressure to get everyone vaccinated. We also know the statistics surrounding Covid deaths were p, and still possibly are being manipulated to exaggerate deaths from Covid.

There has also been an absence of rigorous scientific research to determine side effects and long term safety of the vaccine. Furthermore there have been few autopsies of sudden death patients.

Certainly the efforts of the FDA and the primary vaccine producers to delay for 75 years the release to the public of the data supporting the emergency use authorization has not inspired trust in the “science”. Neither has the continuation of blanket immunity from lawsuits for the drug companies and the insistence of government on vaccinating young children without any scientific evidence of the long term safety of the vaccine in children.

Historically long term trials of new vaccines and drugs have been a requirement for use authorization. Even with long term trials some treatments have been pulled from the market after authorization due to negative experience in widespread use. It is noteworthy that approved treatments have been withdrawn from the market after far fewer reports of adverse reactions than have been recorded for the Covid vaccines.

What seems to be missing with the Covid vaccines is a desire by government and the scientific community to engage in rigorous controlled testing to investigate side effects and prove the safety of the vaccines. The legitimate questions are not being evaluated and answered with hard evidence and testing. The questioners are still being attacked, ridiculed and sometimes punished for reasonable doubt. Reasonable inquiry and debate has been politicized and rational inquiry crushed. Whenever questioning is suppressed arbitrarily, instead of being responded to with evidence, people naturally become concerned and loose faith in those who suppress information and deny inquiry.

The push to vax without long term trials came about at the time the Russia collusion hoax was slowly being revealed. Many of the strong advocates for emergency use authorization, and later mandates, were the same politicians and bureaucrats who perpetuated the Russia collusion hoax as well as the labeling of the January 6 incident as an attempt to overthrow the government. Their forceful implementation of vaccines without testing, extended lockdowns of society, suppression of information, and crushing of debate in order to implement health policy created resentment, doubt and contributed to reluctance to take the vaccines.

It may be the vaccines are “safe” within the long term definition of safe. We don’t know because rigorous scientific testing has not been performed. We do know that initial claims the Covid vaccines were 95% effective in preventing the disease were false as was the claim the vaccinated could not spread the disease. We also know the natural immunity of those who contracted Covid, before vaccines were available, provided future protection at least as good as the vaccines and possibly better. We know the experts virtually ignored natural immunity. We also know from foreign scientific trials, and real world experience outside the US, some drug therapies work well in treating Covid patients as well as reducing the chances of infection. We know also the US medical establishment ignores those realities and continues to label the evidence misinformation.

We also know the development of the vaccine was funded by the taxpayer. We know the government purchased the vaccine in huge quantities and administered it free of charge to the public. We know the pharmaceutical companies made record profits on the sale of the product to the government and received blanket immunity from prosecution by people taking the vaccines who experienced side effects and death. One could certainly question this socialist business model which paid off handsomely for company executives, stockholders, politicians receiving millions in campaign contributions from big pharma, media companies receiving millions in big pharma advertising, and government scientists who receive royalty payments, grants, and post retirement jobs from the pharmaceutical industry. However there is no public debate on the issue of possible corruption and collusion. The appearance of corruption though does contribute to skepticism about motives and the truth about a vaccine program that enriched many special interests and government officials.

Is the vaccine, the rapidly mutating Covid vaccine, or a combination of both responsible for the rise in heart disease and sudden deaths? Today we have an emerging public awareness of the increased incidence of heart disease, without hard evidence of the cause and contributing factors. The debate currently is based on speculation and therefore becomes emotional and political, particularly when entrenched special interests and huge amounts of money are involved.

The correct response is to conduct objective scientific testing and evaluating of cases, rigorous objective analysis of data, and perform more autopsies of those who are dying. Instead any questioning and calls for evidence are being met with claims of “misinformation”, “settled science”, personal attacks, and imposition of censorship to stifle debate.

Science has been politicized. The commitment of science to rationally searching for the truth has been destroyed. Curiosity and inquiry is suppressed. Questioning is met with censorship and punishment instead of reasoned debate based on facts.

How can anyone know the truth about Covid, and the Covid vaccines, when debate is stifled and real scientific investigation does not occur.


109 posted on 08/01/2023 8:04:32 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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