Posted on 07/01/2023 5:14:06 AM PDT by marktwain
On January 13, 2023, LD 168 was introduced into the Maine Legislature by Speaker Talbot Ross of Portland, cosponsored by Representative Salisbury of Westbrook.
LD 168 was designed to eliminate most private sales of modern firearms by requiring the sale to be conducted through a federally licensed dealer and recorded in the dealerโs records. The bill specifically targeted gun shows, online distributors, or printed publications advertising firearms for sale. Law enforcement was exempted. The fine for the first offense was set at $1000.ย From LD 168:
2. Requirement. If neither the seller nor buyer of a firearm is a federally licensed firearms dealer, the transaction must be facilitated by such a dealer. The dealer shall perform a criminal background check using the Federal Bureau of Investigation, National Instant Criminal Background Check System of the buyer in the same manner as if the dealer were the seller of the firearm that is the subject of the transaction. If the criminal background check reveals that the buyer is prohibited from purchasing a firearm, the dealer shall notify the seller of that fact. The dealer may charge a reasonable fee for serving as the facilitator.
On June 26, the bill passed the Maine House of Representatives with a vote of 70 to 65, with 16 absent. Six Democrats voted against the bill, along with 59 Republicans. LD 168 was sent to the Maine Senate. On June 27, 2023, in the Maine State Senate, the bill was defeated 21 to 13, with one senator absent.ย ย Nine Democrats and twelve Republican senators voted to defeat the bill.
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Please everyone read this statement again and again and again. “Law enforcement was exempted.”
LEO would not be held accountable by this proposed law. LEO would be “exempt”. I guess it’s good to be the muscle and thugs for the government. Prepare accordingly.
Universal registration is a precursor to selective confiscation.
Buy it now while you can, Mainers. Is that the proper term?
“Mainiacs” is more apt.
Maine is one of the strongest Second Amendment states in the country.
It’s always these moonbats in the Portland area.....aka, North Massachusetts....that try to push through so-called “gun control,” and their attempts always goes down the tubes.
Michael Bloomturd spent big bucks on a ballot initiative several election cycles ago. It would have banned the private sale of guns in Maine.
The police ran ads on TV with uniformed police chiefs in favor; the elected sheriffs of Maine ran ads, with uniformed sheriffs, opposed to Bloomturd’s scheme.
The voters of Maine voted to keep the private sale of firearms.
Maine has Concealed Carry and Constitutional Carry.
The way it is in NevaDUH now. Is it adhered too?.... No doubt it’s prevented hundreds if not thousands of illegal uses of firearms. Right? Bueller?
There is such a law in Washington state and it has accomplished its intended result: gun shows have been all but eliminated. What you never hear about is whether itโs impacted gun crime. Whenever I get drug into a conversation with liberals about gun control, my first question is always โhow are current gun laws reducing gun crimes?โ If theyโre effective, it should be statistically provable. Why do we have both more gun laws than ever and yet more and more violent crime? Are we pursuing valid solutions or just punishing gun owners? Liberals donโt really know and donโt really care. In the words of Barack Obama, itโs really just about punishing your enemies.
Passing stupid laws like this will do nothing to deter crime and make honest citizens ignore such laws. I lent a revolver to my father in law to keep with him when he and my mother in law were travelling. NO ONE needs or needed to know about this except him and me.
Obama: Reward your friends. Punish your enemies.
Friends: Soros, cartels and china
Enemies: American citizens, capitalism and our former allies.
Biden is just doing obama’s bidding while the kenyan gets to hide behind the curtains.
Well, now the world knows.
At least I knew my childhood friend (or his cousin, both of them are named David) voted against the bill, his district contains small towns in Maine. His family are loggers, so they are intelligent people.
Because of course it was.
Bastards.
When you get away from the area southwest of Portland (Kittery to Sanford to Portland), Maine has wonderful people. They (like most outside of the blue areas) are more libertarian than liberal. They just want to be left alone.
๐๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ถ๐ช๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ ๐ด๐ข๐ญ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฃ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ท๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ฃ๐บ ๐จ๐ฐ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฏ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต ๐ข๐จ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต ๐ช๐ด ๐ข ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ค๐ถ๐ณ๐ด๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ช๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด๐ข๐ญ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐จ๐ช๐ด๐ต๐ณ๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ.
It’s already happening at the federal level. For about the past 2 years the ATF has been going into FFLs and copying or photographing form 4473’s, OR they’ve been cracking down on FFLs for the most minor thing trying to shut them down which would require them to surrender such forms anyway. We’ve been assured that the ATF isn’t making a registry, they’re merely scanning 4473s into a searchable database (but it’s not a registry, mind you).
The ATF has also altered the 4473 in a couple of ways, one of the revisions that went into effect I believe in early 2023. I believe on the current form that there is a box to check regarding whether or not your residence is within city limits; which I believe could serve as a gotcha is you have an address that’s listed in a certain city, but the actual residence isn’t physically within limit. For the purposes of mailing, taxes, school, fire, and police I live within a nearby city, however my home is actually within a township on the outskirts of some city. I won’t be purchasing a firearm anytime soon wherein I would have to fill out a 4473.
Not entirely correct.Remember:DJT carried one of Maine’s two counties in ‘16.
“LD 168 was designed to eliminate most private sales of modern firearms by requiring the sale to be conducted through a federally licensed dealer and recorded in the dealerโs records.”
Yep. The only reason to require that a sale of firearms be recorded with records kept by the dealer is so government officials will be aware of who owns firearms. Notice lately the reports of the BATF raiding gun stores and seizing all their records? They NEED to know that information!
The only reason they want to know who has firearms is so they can confiscate them in an “emergency” or even at any other time they wish. Once such a law is passed into law, a government official can declare an “emergency” and require that all firearms be turned over to officials for “safe-keeping” and for “public safety”. If they know who owns firearms, they will be able to keep track of who has and has not obeyed their dictate.
They can then know which households may be “problematic” and act accordingly.
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