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[familyop]

The Internet has ushered mudslinging to unforeseen lows. Pig sty lows.

[dfwgator]

The Internet has ushered mudslinging to unforeseen lows. Pig sty lows.

You obviously know little about how campaigns historically have gone. This is nothing.

[MayflowerMadam]

Like we didn’t know that.

[MayflowerMadam]

“Trump is still a fat egomaniacal dope who is too stubborn and foolish to do what needs to be done to save the country,”

Has anyone done more to save the country than Trump did?

Who on the scene could do a better job?

[MayflowerMadam]

“Don’t forget the Lincoln Project fags”.

I think it’s the Log Cabin Republicans who are homosexuals. The Lincoln Project guys are the vile traitorous assholes. I haven’t heard where the Log Cabin guys stand or who they’re supporting.

[MayflowerMadam]

“She is best at being MIA”

It worked for Basement Biden so maybe it would work for Nimrata, too.

[dfwgator]

They are fags too.

[Trump_Triumphant]

And yet DeSantis supporters would have us believe that Trump is finished while their guy is being supported by the worst and most corrupt operatives ever to work for the “Republican” party. I’m not ever going back to those jackals, and I hope others feel the same way.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

No, that’s why he is starting to sound more like Mitt Obamney each week.

[dragnet2]

Ron DeSantis has all of the wrong friends while President Trump has all of the right enemies.

That hits the ten ring!

[dragnet2]

Ron DeSantis has all of the wrong friends while President Trump has all of the right enemies.

That hits the ten ring!

[FlipWilson]

Rove’s idea of a victory is a squeaker. Bush never got as many votes Trump. He barely beat Gore and barely beat Kerry.

Rove also advised McCain and Romney.

Rove also coined “compassionate conservatism.”

I could go on all day with Rove’s greatest panders.

[rlmorel]

In the military, not everyone can be the tip of the spear. When I served, I surely wasn’t, although it is true that while serving on a warship, that can change in an instant, as Pearl Harbor sailors found out on December 7th, 1941.

As for DeSantis and what he did in his service, I am not a fan of NIS, and did get interviewed by them once when they were trying to determine how an intake screen for our planes disappeared while at sea. It was no doubt an expensive item, and I had heard rumors that rang true to me that someone had thrown it over the side in a fit of rage, but had no proof, and in any case, was not inclined to cooperate with NIS. Admittedly, I was going through a period in my life where I did not view the police as my friend, not because I was doing things I shouldn’t have been, or that they were doing anything to me. It was just one of those phases.

But I will say, I had a major problem with the NIS (or whatever they call it now) investigating a few things in Iraq that seemed overly political to me, but...that is perhaps just me. (The Marine shooting a wounded insurgent in that mosque is one of them, the other was the treatment of the SEAL team. I don’t believe people have to surrender their soul in war, but I keep in mind that war is, by its nature, an assault on the soul, and “real world” values simply don’t always apply.

I don’t dislike DeSantis per se, but to me, he is a politician. Better than many, no doubt, because his viewpoints and attitudes on certain things do closely mirror my own viewpoints and attitudes.

But he is a politician, with all that goes with that. He sticks his finger in the air, he makes choices based on what is best for him holding his position, even if some of those are indeed things I support, but the fact is, I have trouble quantifiably differentiating him from nearly any other politician.

Trump does that too, but in a different degree. But Trump has shown me he is willing to do “unpopular” things because they are right, or even when people don’t think those thing are worthwhile or even if they can be done at all.

And, he has “FU Money”. He doesn’t need money from our enemies such as Communist China, and as such, cannot be bought or influenced the same way. And I think the vast majority of our politicians have been bought off in one form or another.

Which is why Trump is so dangerous to American politicians and Media goons, because so many of them are corrupt to the core. Trump is a threat to all of them and the political eco-structure (status quo) of our government in the same way an honest cop, one who won’t accept payola or bribes is dangerous to a corrupt police department’s status quo.

The vehemence with which he is being attacked on all sides, by nearly all involved parties (and the mostly abject silence of those who SHOULD be defending him or the principles he espouses) frankly frightens me with respect to who is bought off and who isn’t, and I am not sanguine about our future.

Trump is not in any way perfect, he is very flawed. But those flaws are pretty easy to see. I, for one, am willing to accept those flaws as part of the overall package that is Donald Trump.

Others are not, and I have to disagree with them. I could and will pull the lever for DeSantis if he is the nominee. But I want someone who is apparently nearly rabidly feared by both people I disagree with and people who want things to go on as they have, to conform to the status quo.

I don’t think we have that luxury of sitting for much longer in that cushy chair that is our governmental status quo. I think that comfy chair of the governmental status quo is sitting on a rotten, termite-infested wooden floor, and could collapse at any second. Trump might buy us a little more time, but even then.

[John S Mosby]

I know who is whom... the Lincoln Project clowns were majorly paedophiles, and were outed, you should remember them, esp their “leader”. The Bushies worked through them and their neocons like Kristol. Paedos cross over into the NAMBLA queers. There are homo conservatives (mostly libertarians would wager) and there is much less trouble from them, though they have been infiltrated via media and derp state handlers inside the US).

[Vlad0]

Comparing Trump's best election with Bush's best election it's not as different as you suggest. Yes, Trump did better in the electoral college: 304 vs. 286 electoral votes.

On the other hand: Bush got a significantly higher percentage of the popular vote, winning a absolute majority of 50.3% of the popular vote. Trump only managed a plurality win at 48.2%

Bush V. Kerry, 2004:

BUSH: 286 KERRY: 251
BUSH: 50.7% KERRY: 48.3%

Trump V. Hillary Clinton, 2016:

TRUMP: 304 HILLARY: 227
TRUMP: 48.2% HILLARY: 46.1%

Comparing their worst presidential elections, well Bush won vs. Gore, albeit narrowly, and Trump lost, albeit with irregularities, also narrowly.

If you compare the Team Bush (Rove) response to the Florida election irregularities to the Trump response to 2020 debacle, it was clearly much, much better. Team Trump 2020 was a fiasco. (What ever happened to the claims of Sidney Powell?)

Trump could use some more professionalism in his campaign, especially the legal team.

[poconopundit]

Bravo Zulu, rlmorel. This is a beautifully written piece that I think judiciously compares the virtues of DeSantis and Trump.

I hereby award you the H. L. Mencken Prize for Distinguished Commentary. Well Done!

[FlipWilson]

Quote: “Trump could use some more professionalism in his campaign, especially the legal team.”

On that I agree. But in fairness, the dems only tried to steal one state in 2000. They pulled off theft in multiple states in 2020. I wonder if they would have gotten away with it in 2000 had mail in voting been in existence?

[SunkenCiv]

/bingo

[rlmorel]

LOL, being compared to H.L. Mencken! I don’t know much about him apart from his pithy quotes, and I admire him for his turn of a phrase, and wish I had that skill, but he largely sounded like an unpleasant elitist. But as you awarded me that prize for “Distinguished Commentary, I guess I could do a lot worse and wholly accept that as a compliment...:)

Seriously, this is a difficult issue for many conservatives. That was just my take on it. It is hard for people on either sid to talk about it without either rightfully or unjustly incurring the flames of Free Republic perdition.

Kind of how it is with the Ukraine-Russia conflict. Can’t even discuss it rationally with anyone it seems.

[poconopundit]

Hey, rlmorel,

A belated reply to your LOL to me about being compared to H. L. Mencken.

I am a student of H.L.  He's quite possibly the greatest American pundit that every lived.  During his heyday in the early 20th century he was the most read newspaper columnist in America... and for a period ALSO the most read literary critic at the same time.

Probably the best anthology of his writing is The Impossible H. L. Mencken (out of print, but widely available used on Ebay).

One warning about that volume is pretty thick so it must be read sitting down -- too big to read in bed.

Mencken;s literary critiques are also well-worth reading. An anthology of that stuff is entitled The Smart Set Criticism edited by Nolte.

I have posted three vanities featuring his writing here:

The Source of Beethoven's Musical Genius: His Greater Dignity as a Man (posted 2016)

H. L. Mencken Predicted Donald Trump, the Enlightened Rabble-Rouser (posted 2016)

Mencken on the Constitution plus Musk and Friends Corral Dorsey at Runnymede (pic) (2022)

Now what struck me about your own writing style is that -- like Mencken-- it's very accessible and fun to read.

And in your recent FR vanity, A Day in the Life of a US Navy Plane Captain you basically filled in a lot of facts that aviation enthusiasts would love to know, especially if they recently saw Top Gun or the recent Maverick movie with Tom Cruise.

This was a technical discussion that in the wrong person's pen could easily turn into a boring work.  But you brought it alive by interspersed your perspective, a bit of carrier politics, what you did on liberty, analysis of the John McCain incident, and all sorts of off-the-wall stuff.

So I'd have to say this was one of the best vanities I've ever read on FR -- and your sometimes lengthy follow-up comments were just as interesting as the opening vanity.

And using real aviation talk on flight deck, readers got treated to the inside scoop -- stuff like: "On the A-7, it was a long, yet comfortable crawl to the front of the engine because it was a big intake."

Cool...