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1 posted on 03/24/2023 7:58:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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What a seachange. The Rats want war and we don’t.


2 posted on 03/24/2023 8:00:15 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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I would like to see a cost/benefit breakdown of this war for the US.


4 posted on 03/24/2023 8:05:12 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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Headline contradicts the second sentence.

The Axios/Ipsos Two Americas poll found that overall, 59 percent of Americans, or three in five, support providing weapons and financial support to the Eastern European nation.

5 posted on 03/24/2023 8:05:34 AM PDT by DannyTN
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If they had asked I'd have gladly given 'em a huge  +1
6 posted on 03/24/2023 8:07:41 AM PDT by tomkat (SOTU = FUBAR)
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We need to cut off funding to NGOs too.

And some, if not most, of the federal bureaucracy.


7 posted on 03/24/2023 8:08:04 AM PDT by Prolixus (In all seriousness:)
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I think Democrats started WWIII when they let Victoria Nuland and Jake Sullivan blow up the Nordstream pipelines. The mud just needs time to firm up enough to start tossing it around.

More economic ruin should hasten the process.

8 posted on 03/24/2023 8:08:32 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Rufus T Firefly lives on. )
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58% of Republicans still think the Iraq war was a good idea?


9 posted on 03/24/2023 8:10:05 AM PDT by alternatives?
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OK - so you stop funding the war in Ukraine. THEN WHAT?

Do you have a peace deal to promote?

What do you say to the US allies we have stupidly pulled into this war as well?

Do you expect our pals in the neo-Nazi Azov / Zelensky regime to now collapse?

How does the USA avoid total embarrassment?

How do you deal with insane neocons like Nuland, Blinken who still control our institutions and make policy?

America is run immoral grasping neocons, the MIC or spineless RINOs. None of whom can see beyond the end of their nose.


11 posted on 03/24/2023 8:14:51 AM PDT by PGR88
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DeSantis’s sell out to deep state lobbyists could not have been timed any worse.


12 posted on 03/24/2023 8:19:43 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Thank you for referencing that article SoConPubbie.

"Majority of GOP opposed to continued funding for war in Ukraine: poll"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

All that it takes for one so-called “MAGA Republican” to effectively exercise majority power to stop unaccountable US funding for Ukraine is to publicly point out Justice Joseph Story's clarification that foreign aid is constitutionally indefensible.

If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).

Patriots, the bottom line is this imo. What is your threshold of “pain” for peacefully stopping unconstitutionally big state and federal governments controlled by bully, constitutionally undefined political parties, from oppressing the people under their boots?

The inevitable remedy for ongoing, post-17A ratification, corrupt political party treason (imo)...

All MAGA patriots need to wake up their RINO federal and state lawmakers by making the following clear to them.

If they don’t publicly support either a resolution, or a Constitutional Convention, to effectively "secede" ALL the states from the unconstitutionally big federal government by amending the Constitution to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A), doing so before the primary elections in 2024, that YOU will primary them.

If the proposed amendment was limited strictly to repealing 16&17A, relatively little or ideally no discussion would be needed before ratification of the amendment imo.

With 16&17A out of the way, my hope is that Trump 47 becomes the FIRST president of a truly constitutionally limited power federal government.

In the meanwhile, I'm not holding my breath for significant MAGA legislation to appear in the first 100 days of new term for what may still prove to be another RINO-controlled House.

In other words, primarying RINOs in 2022 was just for practice. Trump will hopefully do another round of primarying for 2024 elections.

14 posted on 03/24/2023 8:23:22 AM PDT by Amendment10
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That’s going to make it difficult to get a Republican candidate through the primary who will have broad enough appeal to win the general election.

Our own founders had a lot of help from one of the leading powers of the day, France. We should study how that all worked out (while avoiding a French revolution), since the French also had a huge gap between “haves” and “have nots,” while at the same time that the “haves” made an investment in the U.S. that has paid multiple dividends over the centuries. Ukraine is one of the Eastern bloc nations that Russia wants back in order to play king of the hill, while mismanaging them and squashing their prospects.


16 posted on 03/24/2023 8:23:54 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Evidently the fringe left has seen "something nasty in the woodshed" Ala Stella Gibbons)
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Does this mean maybe Ukraine won’t be partisan in the future? I don’t trust 98% of them.


18 posted on 03/24/2023 8:25:08 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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The longer the war goes on, the less support it will have. A deep recession will hasten its unpopularity. Borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars to prolong a proxy war is unsustainable.

The Medicare Trust fund is exhausted in 2028. When the choice is between guns or butter, butter always wins.


19 posted on 03/24/2023 8:39:31 AM PDT by kabar
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It’s all about who is in love with the Nazis.


20 posted on 03/24/2023 8:46:46 AM PDT by iontheball
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Are we sure that there really is a war going on? It could be photoshopped by Zelenskyyyyyy and Brandonnnnnn and the two of them are splitting the money.


21 posted on 03/24/2023 8:50:06 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Go Brandon! FJB.)
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Time for peace agreement, right now. Halt this madness.


22 posted on 03/24/2023 9:03:54 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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Do we actually know what fractio to Ukrainen of the money actually went to Ukraine after Biden’s skimoff? We may be giving more to Russia.


23 posted on 03/24/2023 9:11:06 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Who knew the left were such warmongers...


26 posted on 03/24/2023 9:25:25 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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Not opposed to funding, just want to pay our fair share. The Euro nations who are on the continent with Russia and Ukraine ought to be paying equal amounts.


31 posted on 03/24/2023 9:39:49 AM PDT by TiGuy22
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Bye bye Putin whisperers


36 posted on 03/24/2023 4:28:58 PM PDT by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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