Posted on 03/20/2023 8:43:54 AM PDT by bitt
It was an analysis, not an endorsement.
I appreciate your comment. No, I was being facetious...but you did mention that Pence had spoken out against Trump’s pending indictment. I think Pence is a complete tool, and him speaking out on this issue is, to me, meaningless with respect to any actions DeSantis should or shouldn’t take.
Did I tell you how to think or feel? I don’t recall doing that, so I’ll thank you for not putting words in my mouth. What I was getting at is that civility is supposedly one of the rules around here, and my duty as a Christian. Stating that it’s not good to reflexively try to rip the throat out of anyone who disagrees with you is not good. Simple as that
Tell me, which public leader in HISTORY of the U.S. has had to endure more abuse, more 24/7 attacks for years now, attacks from his OWN party, the entire media, foreign leaders, drug kingpins worth billions, the FBI, DOJ, CIA, Hollywood, et al?
It’s interesting that the audience enthusiastically clapped at the end of DeSantis’s statement. The whole thing had a very staged feel to it, down to the audience laughter when DeSantis worked “paying hush money to a porn star” into his response.
“Tell me, which public leader in HISTORY of the U.S. has had to endure more abuse, more 24/7 attacks for years now, attacks from his OWN party, the entire media, foreign leaders, drug kingpins worth billions, the FBI, DOJ, CIA, Hollywood, et al?”
I can’t think of any. But my point was that this a problem that goes beyond Trump and will outlast him if it’s allowed to continue. Even if you don’t like Trump, you have to speak out on this issue, because if it can be done to Trump, it can be done to anyone.
Like someone who calls people names like EverTrumpers?
I noted that as well. But Trump has thrown some at him as well and politics isn’t a Sunday social usually for Democrats. This borders on radical considering the establishments abhorrence to responding to any attacks. Only conservatives get hit by these trashy snobs.
So long Saint Desantis runs a shadow presidential campaign he is NOT being honest ...
Obviously, derision is all you have--derision, name calling, and ad hominem attacks--no argument, no truth to present.
Andrew Jackson, though several of those entities didn’t exist when he was alive, he is probably the second most hated SUCCESSFUL President... after him Nixon.
“Well, he did respond...and given DJT’s repeated insults, DeSantis’ tepid statement is not particularly surprising - and I wouldn’t have expected any more (or maybe less) from DJT if the roles were reversed.”
No, it’s not surprising, because DeSantis is a political animal. Rising above politics to denounce the politization of our justice system, in a way that is, itself, not political, is not in his nature.
As far as Trump responding in a similar way if the roles were reversed, I disagree. Trump has demonstrated an ability to rise above politics when the situation requires it. For an example, on multiple occasions he’s criticized the DNC’s unfair treatment of Bernie sanders in the 2016 primaries - despite being in political opposition to Sanders and despite Sanders’s own criticisms of Trump.
“ Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) slammed Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's “political persecution” of former President Donald Trump as “utter and complete crap.”
“The case from the Manhattan District Attorney, if they bring an indictment and charge him, is utter and complete crap…It is flimsy. It is weak,” Cruz said on his latest Verdict podcast episode. “It has been rejected by prosecutor after prosecutor after prosecutor. And it is obviously political retribution and a political persecution.
“[Bragg] hates Donald Trump. Now he has a right to hate Donald Trump. But he doesn't have a right to abuse and corrupt the justice system to persecute his political opponents. And that, sadly, is exactly what he's doing here,” the Texas senator continued.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4139557/posts
Senator Cruz's clarity to the dire situation this country is facing shamed Governor DeSantis’ response.
“For an example, on multiple occasions he’s criticized the DNC’s unfair treatment of Bernie sanders in the 2016 primaries - despite being in political opposition to Sanders and despite Sanders’s own criticisms of Trump.”
We’ll just have to agree to disagree on that one. I don’t for a second think Trump gives two spits about how Bernie was being treated. I think his statements were purely politically-motivated in the hopes of capturing a few votes from those who were already disenchanted with the Dem establishment. And I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that.
If the demon rats hate Trump so much, why are they ordering their media sycophants/whoredom to unload on DeSantis every chance they get and then some?
this is not about DJT - this is about the rights of any/every American. sorry DeSantis didn’t psyche that out at the start. he let his political animus towards Trump get ahead of his usual good political instincts. that’s an X Ron.
I agree that’s pretty strong stuff. Picked it up on the very thread I used it in, and it seems unpopular. I’m full of regret, as I’m sure are the people in this forum who have called me a stooge, nevertrumper, fool, traitor, biden supporter and a*hole for expressing the views I expressed on this thread. I promise never to again use that (apparent) performative
Listen to the video. Governor DeSantis made that point crystal clear in his statement. There is an amazing amount of selective reading, selective hearing and selective interpretation going on around here.
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