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To: NorseViking; Sunsong
Title of the article " Why the world needs an Ukrainian victory"

NoseWanking Too bad it is not going to happen.

Facts on the ground

like at Kharkiv where the Ukrainians won back 8,000 square kilometres

And the Ukrainian victory at Kherson Where the Ukrainians won back 1,200 sq kilometers from the Russians/b>

So totally, since May 2022 the Ukrainians have won back about 10,000 square kilometers or Half the size of New Jersey

The Russkis won back 5 square miles at Soledar on the backs of 10s of 1000s of Russkis dead...

13 posted on 01/24/2023 2:42:44 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

You guys have no idea what warfare is.


15 posted on 01/24/2023 2:46:45 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Cronos

Have you seen this? RT, the *official* State media head warns us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcqX7PZUu5w&t=2s

in an earlier version she essentially said: “either we get Ukraine or we’ll destroy the world”


17 posted on 01/24/2023 2:49:49 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: Cronos

Casualties, square miles, propaganda.

The only number that matters is how many billions did it cost the USA, and how much went into the pockets of congressional idiots like Lindsey Graham.

How much money did you get Lindsey?


39 posted on 01/24/2023 3:53:03 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Cronos

Russia has made various gains also.
The Ukrainian army has lost around 120,000 men, much more than the Russians.
There are reports of large numbers of Polish military fighting in Ukraine.
It is a full on proxy war.

Russia would have had no excuse to invade if the west/Ukraine had not helped overthrow Yanukovych and spent the last 8 years attacking ethnic Russians in the Donbass region instead of keeping to the Minsk accords.


47 posted on 01/24/2023 4:21:54 AM PST by winslow
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To: Cronos

Where’s your map after November? Oh, that’s right…. That doesn’t tell the story you want. Much of Ukrainian ‘wins’ were the result of Russia stepping back to shorten their line. And the Ukrainians paid dearly for those gains, and now they’re giving it back. Unless NATO intervenes directly Ukraine is going to cease to exist as anything but a rump state. So, are you willing to send Americans to fight Russians?


54 posted on 01/24/2023 4:28:17 AM PST by Toad of Toad Hall (time is short and getting shorter)
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