To: StAnDeliver
Secondly...
Where were any 'alternate' slates of Electors with the imprimatur of both that state's legislature and signed off by that state's Governor?
- Even if Pence had had that, the House and the Senate must both vote in the majority to throw out the original Electors of any challenged state's slate.
- The fact that 1 Congressman and 1 Senator, can initially object to every electoral slate (50 states + DC) is not enough to actually disqualify that state's slate. The objection, in order to succeed, must have both the House & Senate majority votes to disqualify the original slate.
- There is nothing in 3USC nor 12A nor the Electoral Count Act [which (a) has been ruled constitutional; and (b) the Eastman 'memo' farcically sought to overthrow], that allows any incumbent VP to act extra-constitutionally.
- FRacebook rage fails as usual to comprehend the complete absence of any enabling Constitutional language that would have permitted Pence to act in a completely unconstitutional manner.
- What a limp minority of FRacebookers really wanted Pence to do, was perform errant Libtard Constructionalism a la WisePuta/Elanaesbian, in treating the Constitution like a "Living Document" DOORMAT.
- As if this needs to be added -- and yet it does -- so far have we fallen that the FreeRepublic Mission Statement must be a stake in the ground yet again in this thread:
"Free Republic advocates a return to constitutionally limited government, reserving all government powers not expressly delegated by the constitution to the United States to the States respectively, or the people, emphasizing sovereign state governments, local government, self-government and self-rule, while restricting government powers to only those enumerated in the Constitution."
- Had the mouth-breathing, daydrinking FRacebook FReeptard cadre and their demented, blatantly unconstitutional rule-by-fiat had been followed just four years earlier in 2016, the Democrats' objections to every single state's electoral slate would have successfully pre-empted President Trump's legitimate victory.
- On Jan. 6, 2017, the Democrats planned -- to the minute -- a challenge of every single state's slate of electors, and they executed their plan to the letter, with longtime Leftard Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) objecting right out of the gate to Alabama's slate of electors, citing "direct Russian election interference via hacking the election software of VR Systems".
- McGovern's challenge was immediately followed by challenges from Marxist fellow travelers Raskin, then Jayapal, then Sheboon Lee, then Grijalva.
- This, in early 2017, would have been the result, the very result our Founding Fathers fought and died to prevent when they crafted the Constitution:
| "Mr. McGovern has objected to the Alabama slate due to the "confirmed and illegal activities engaged by the government of Russia". Mr. Raskin has objected to Florida’s slate, due to that state's prohibition against dual office holders. Ms. Jayapal has objected to the Georgia slate's electoral certification. Ms. Lee has objected to the Michigan slate again due to Russian interference. Mr. Grijalva has objected to the North Carolina slate due to violations of the Voting Rights Act. I find all of these objections in due order and I hereby as Vice-President suspend each of these state's elector slates until further investigation by the DOJ and the FBI, and I further order each state involved, to prepare, certify, and send an alternate slate of electors. Trump's Inauguration can wait forever, as far as I'm concerned. We are adjourned." - Vice-President Joseph Biden, January 6, 2017 |
- After then-VP Biden -- in identical fashion to what FRacebookers wanted from VP Pence -- had ruled every challenged 2016 electoral slate "out of order" -- despite the fact that the GOP held the House and Senate in 2016 and thus could and did prevent constitutionally, any Alternate Electoral Slates -- Hillary would have still been installed shortly after SCOTUS surrendered under the weight of 51 challenge cases, only requiring SCOTUS to respond positively to Vice-President Biden's challenges to the 3 critical, close swing-state cases [PA, MI, WI] that would have immediately floated to the top of the unconstitutionally slate-challenged Electoral College bowl.
The fact that FRacebookers are even still sticking their face into the fan blade as they bleat bleat bleat for unconstitutional actions that a zombie like Joe Biden could have used to deny Donald Trump the presidency in 2016, or that Heels Up could use to deny Donald Trump the presidency in 2024, is proof positive that some of you need to quit parading your ignorance.
65 posted on
11/25/2022 2:49:01 PM PST by
StAnDeliver
(Tanned, rested, and ready.)
To: StAnDeliver
Bump to the top. Perfect, comprehensive assessment of the situation.
66 posted on
11/25/2022 5:03:42 PM PST by
Alberta's Child
("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
To: StAnDeliver
"There is no Constitutional mechanism to permit the Vice-President to make such a claim"
Again. the President of the Senate Or as you call the VP presents objections.
The Objection made which was, "all of the known circumstances, regularly given."
Referring to the Covid rules given by bureaucratic and not approved by legislators. In other words. Where regular circumstances used during this vote?
Second part the House and Senate in a joint session set up stacked vote by omitting a legal majority by either.
Perpetrated by the speaker of the house.
A point of order was requested over the highly irregular stacked vote. The President of the Senate didn't seem to understand his question as he cited "no debate was allowed." Which suggest he was in on the stacked vote or a moron.
The rest of your post. I can only talk about what powers they do have not what they don't have. Which is pointless.
70 posted on
11/26/2022 7:21:44 AM PST by
Steve Van Doorn
(*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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