Well, time to drop the knowledge hammer again.
First, who was properly responsible for the clarion call to investigate the 2020 election fraud? President Donald J. Trump:
- Trump knew this. He had been advised of his Article II power from Day One, by everyone from Bannon to Kushner:
"He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States." - The Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 3
- The authority, and the responsibility for rejecting elector slates, and demanding state legislatures send new elector slates consistent with investigations into electoral fraud, resided solely with President Trump.
- There is no Constitutional mechanism to permit the Vice-President to make such a claim. That power -- if it indeed exists -- lies solely with the Office of the President. Any such attempt by the VP would be duly and properly ignored.
- As President Lincoln once promised, leaning into Congressman James Alley, "I am the President of the United States, clothed with immense power, and I expect you to procure those votes!" What Lincoln did not say, was: "Vice-President Johnson is clothed with immense power, and I expect him to procure those votes!"
- In April 2020, President Trump threatened to dismiss Congress over blocking him from recess appointments. President Trump believed he had that power -- the exact same power he would have used to remand the presented elector's slates back to each state's legislature -- and Trump believed that power was invested in him alone. President Trump didn't call VP Pence and say, "Hey Mike, you tell them you're shutting down Congress because I can't get my recess appointments."
64 posted on
11/25/2022 2:44:09 PM PST by
StAnDeliver
(Tanned, rested, and ready.)
To: StAnDeliver
Secondly...
Where were any 'alternate' slates of Electors with the imprimatur of both that state's legislature and signed off by that state's Governor?
- Even if Pence had had that, the House and the Senate must both vote in the majority to throw out the original Electors of any challenged state's slate.
- The fact that 1 Congressman and 1 Senator, can initially object to every electoral slate (50 states + DC) is not enough to actually disqualify that state's slate. The objection, in order to succeed, must have both the House & Senate majority votes to disqualify the original slate.
- There is nothing in 3USC nor 12A nor the Electoral Count Act [which (a) has been ruled constitutional; and (b) the Eastman 'memo' farcically sought to overthrow], that allows any incumbent VP to act extra-constitutionally.
- FRacebook rage fails as usual to comprehend the complete absence of any enabling Constitutional language that would have permitted Pence to act in a completely unconstitutional manner.
- What a limp minority of FRacebookers really wanted Pence to do, was perform errant Libtard Constructionalism a la WisePuta/Elanaesbian, in treating the Constitution like a "Living Document" DOORMAT.
- As if this needs to be added -- and yet it does -- so far have we fallen that the FreeRepublic Mission Statement must be a stake in the ground yet again in this thread:
"Free Republic advocates a return to constitutionally limited government, reserving all government powers not expressly delegated by the constitution to the United States to the States respectively, or the people, emphasizing sovereign state governments, local government, self-government and self-rule, while restricting government powers to only those enumerated in the Constitution."
- Had the mouth-breathing, daydrinking FRacebook FReeptard cadre and their demented, blatantly unconstitutional rule-by-fiat had been followed just four years earlier in 2016, the Democrats' objections to every single state's electoral slate would have successfully pre-empted President Trump's legitimate victory.
- On Jan. 6, 2017, the Democrats planned -- to the minute -- a challenge of every single state's slate of electors, and they executed their plan to the letter, with longtime Leftard Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) objecting right out of the gate to Alabama's slate of electors, citing "direct Russian election interference via hacking the election software of VR Systems".
- McGovern's challenge was immediately followed by challenges from Marxist fellow travelers Raskin, then Jayapal, then Sheboon Lee, then Grijalva.
- This, in early 2017, would have been the result, the very result our Founding Fathers fought and died to prevent when they crafted the Constitution:
![](https://i.postimg.cc/Nj4XbpFp/Unconstitutionalism-For-Dummies101.jpg) | "Mr. McGovern has objected to the Alabama slate due to the "confirmed and illegal activities engaged by the government of Russia". Mr. Raskin has objected to Florida’s slate, due to that state's prohibition against dual office holders. Ms. Jayapal has objected to the Georgia slate's electoral certification. Ms. Lee has objected to the Michigan slate again due to Russian interference. Mr. Grijalva has objected to the North Carolina slate due to violations of the Voting Rights Act. I find all of these objections in due order and I hereby as Vice-President suspend each of these state's elector slates until further investigation by the DOJ and the FBI, and I further order each state involved, to prepare, certify, and send an alternate slate of electors. Trump's Inauguration can wait forever, as far as I'm concerned. We are adjourned." - Vice-President Joseph Biden, January 6, 2017 |
- After then-VP Biden -- in identical fashion to what FRacebookers wanted from VP Pence -- had ruled every challenged 2016 electoral slate "out of order" -- despite the fact that the GOP held the House and Senate in 2016 and thus could and did prevent constitutionally, any Alternate Electoral Slates -- Hillary would have still been installed shortly after SCOTUS surrendered under the weight of 51 challenge cases, only requiring SCOTUS to respond positively to Vice-President Biden's challenges to the 3 critical, close swing-state cases [PA, MI, WI] that would have immediately floated to the top of the unconstitutionally slate-challenged Electoral College bowl.
The fact that FRacebookers are even still sticking their face into the fan blade as they bleat bleat bleat for unconstitutional actions that a zombie like Joe Biden could have used to deny Donald Trump the presidency in 2016, or that Heels Up could use to deny Donald Trump the presidency in 2024, is proof positive that some of you need to quit parading your ignorance.
65 posted on
11/25/2022 2:49:01 PM PST by
StAnDeliver
(Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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