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PayPal Still Threatens $2500 Fines for Promoting "Discriminatory" "Intolerance" (Even if Not "Misinformation")
Reason ^ | 10/9/22 | EUGENE VOLOKH

Posted on 10/10/2022 6:48:34 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

Yahoo! Finance (Adam Sabes) reported yesterday (as did many other sites):

A new PayPal user agreement that threatens to fine users up to $2,500 if they use the service to "promote misinformation," was sent out "in error," a PayPal spokesperson tells FOX Business.

The updated PayPal Acceptable Use Policy effective Nov. 3 included an expansion of "prohibited activities," which includes the "ending, posting, or publication of messages, content, or materials that meet certain criteria."

According to the updated PayPal user agreement, the company states that each violation could result in "liquidated damages of $2,500.00" per violation, which would be withdrawn directly from their account.

One of the violations listed, according to the agreement, is that … "[users] may not use the PayPal service for activities that … involve the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials that, in PayPal's sole discretion … promote misinformation."

But it appears that the policy continues to be in effect for other speech, according to PayPal's official Acceptable Use Policy, last updated Sept. 20, 2021:

Violation of this Acceptable Use Policy constitutes a violation of the PayPal User Agreement and may subject you to damages, including liquidated damages of $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation, which may be debited directly from your PayPal account(s) as outlined in the User Agreement (see "Restricted Activities and Holds" section of the PayPal User Agreement).

Prohibited activities

You may not use the PayPal service for activities that … relate to … the promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory or the financial exploitation of a crime ….

And the cited "Restricted Activities and Holds" policy makes clear that "Actions We May Take if You Engage in Any Restricted Activities" are determined based on PayPal making the decision "in our sole discretion," if Paypal "believe[s] that you've engaged in any of these activities."

So if PayPal "in [its] sole discretion" concludes that you're using PayPal "for activities that … relate to transactions involving … promotion of" "discriminatory" "intolerance"—presumably including distributing publications, or for that matter buying publications (since that's an activity related to transactions involving the promotion of certain views)—it can just take $2500 straight from your account.

Might you, for instance, be sharply criticizing a religion? Or saying things that sharply condemn, say, government officials (police, FBI, etc.) in ways that some might say involve "promotion of hate"? Or praising people who have acted violently (e.g., in what you think is justifiable self-defense, or defense of others, or even war or revolution)? If PayPal thinks it's bad, it'll just take your money.

Sounds like a good reason to think twice about using PayPal. I've just withdrawn the $1000+ I have in my PayPal account, and I'm starting the process of disentangling myself from the service to the extent possible.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Politics
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; paypal; woke
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To: Yo-Yo

So a T-shirt shop that has satiric content or content that might be politically incorrect (Trump won 2020) that is probably covered by the First Amendment can have their money scavenged from their acccount without any legal basis such as a court order. How can this be legal?


41 posted on 10/10/2022 9:14:42 AM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less the term 'life in prison" scares me)
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To: Sequoyah101

I’m guessing he isn’t i n favor of their censorship-


42 posted on 10/10/2022 9:34:22 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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To: Yo-Yo
Wake PayPal May Go BANKRUPT!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4nYiFkZEYY

43 posted on 10/10/2022 9:44:42 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: Bob434

He says he is not and to unsubscribe from PP.


44 posted on 10/10/2022 9:54:39 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: I want the USA back

“Paypal has no authority to fine. It is a payment processor, not the court.”

Technically, its not a fine; rather, its liquidated damages for breach of contract.


45 posted on 10/10/2022 9:58:35 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Yo-Yo

The one thing everyone is missing.

They are spying on you. Oh and by the way they are acting outside of law.

I have closed my account. Suggest you do the same.


46 posted on 10/10/2022 10:48:54 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Bob434
We need a PayPal alternative that is accepted nearly everywhere that paypal,is accepted.

Can't do anything about who accepts it, but GabPay is fine alternative to Paypal.

47 posted on 10/10/2022 12:39:11 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Bkmk


48 posted on 10/10/2022 12:40:37 PM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Sequoyah101
"Musk was a cofounder of Paypal."
before they sold Paypal
49 posted on 10/10/2022 1:36:16 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: zeugma

only prob is it’ not accepted in a lot of places- wish elon woudl take over paypal lol-


50 posted on 10/10/2022 8:56:28 PM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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