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I don't love all of the authors ideas, but it seems neither side can win now. So, what happens?
1 posted on 09/11/2022 2:26:03 PM PDT by whyilovetexas111
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To: whyilovetexas111

Time will tell.


2 posted on 09/11/2022 2:26:56 PM PDT by cranked
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I think an update of Russian missile strikes are in order ... knocking out all their power plants, water plants, etc. Ukrainian forces will need to fall back to repair the infrastructure ... Russia is going scorched earth on them.


3 posted on 09/11/2022 2:29:32 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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Next week’s headline:

Russia’s Advance Means Ukraine Cannot Win The War

The only winners, as per usual, are the globalist arms dealers (eg Soros)


4 posted on 09/11/2022 2:30:14 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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I don't love all of the authors ideas, but it seems neither side can win now. So, what happens?

The war will continue, as long as both sides see paths to victory.

Stalemate wars have gone on for years.

Consider WWI.

5 posted on 09/11/2022 2:30:32 PM PDT by marktwain
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It seems the world’s puppet masters want this to be a long and costly war. Time to ask the question, “Who profits?” It will be neither Ukraine nor Russia.


6 posted on 09/11/2022 2:31:26 PM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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Ukraine was always going to win this if they wanted it bad enough.

Honestly, the hard truth is, wars fought under the rules established after WW2 can not be won by an occupying force. This was intentional, to prevent wars, by making them unwinnable and unprofitable.


11 posted on 09/11/2022 2:40:49 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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“I don’t love all of the authors ideas, but it seems neither side can win now. So, what happens?”

I disagree. Russia was the aggressor, the invader. So, Ukraine wins by not losing.


12 posted on 09/11/2022 2:45:07 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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I draw analogies to the Battle of the Bulge, the last great offensive mounted by the Third Reich’s Wehrmacht against the Allis in the fall and winter of 1944.

The “Battered Bastards of Bastogne”, the American forces caught in a pincer movement in December 1944, were held in siege from December 20 to December 27, when General George S. Patton and the Third Army came to their rescue, essentially breaking the back of the last German offensive.

The Russians have no General Patton.


13 posted on 09/11/2022 2:48:08 PM PDT by alloysteel (A born skeptic is now living in a target-rich environment. SO many beliefs to challenge...)
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How totally ridiculous. None of this is anywhere near over. Things are going to heat up. he lights are going out and it means something.


16 posted on 09/11/2022 2:52:21 PM PDT by dforest
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What a load of horse manure. It's just another example of propaganda and moving the goalposts.

Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk and Kherson will be under Russian control and stay under Russian control at end of this. And, that and de-militarizing and de-Nazifying Ukraine were the Russian objectives.

The lies from the Biden regime as outrageous on this as they are everything else.

22 posted on 09/11/2022 3:03:08 PM PDT by Kazan
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They’re asking the same question on Russian telly.

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569070513909022720

One pundit thinks they should either surrender or go for a full mobilization, another thinks it’s just going to take time (the first mockingly asks if his ten year old kids are going to get a shot), and a third seems to be thinking that the way to get Ukrainians Who Are All Nazis to surrender is by doing something so VERY BIG and VERY NASTY that the fight goes out of them - although he isn’t specific about what that might be, it’s probably not hearts and minds.

The question finally gets asked, did that Dale Carnegie book have a chapter on winning friends and influencing people that involved wholesale erasure of their national identity and language at gunpoint.

I would’ve simply said, “Have you ever read Aesop’s fable of the Sun and the Wind and if so, did you really not understand it? Hearts and minds, Comrade!”


26 posted on 09/11/2022 3:08:29 PM PDT by MalPearce (qu)
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Oh please, Ukraine gets one victory and they call it over.


30 posted on 09/11/2022 3:13:21 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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And, let's put this laughable "blitzkrieg" in perspective:

https://sonar21.com/understanding-planning-orders-and-troop-movements-in-ukraine/

So, was Russia caught by surprise? No. They had at least one week’s warning of the impending Ukrainian attack. If you want to believe that Russia’s intelligence service is incompetent or was deceived in this operation, enjoy the fantasy. The Russian planners had a couple of choices. They could have moved their forces into position earlier but that would have tipped off the Ukrainians and west that the planned offensive was compromised.

Alternatively, the Russian planners may have decided to mask their movements and made choices about which villages and cities to defend and which to abandon. If Russia had moved preemptively to reinforce Izyum that would have raised warning flags for the Ukrainian and NATO planners.

I agree with Andrei Martyanov’s take–the Russians knew it was coming and chose to let the Ukrainians flood the zone in order to eventually hit the Ukrainian forces with a massive counter attack. The Ukrainians are no longer in fortified defensive positions and their lines of communication to support the forward troops are now defined precisely. The Ukrainian attack has not destroyed nor disrupted Russia’s air, artillery, rocket and missile assets. Attacking the Ukrainian units is an easier task, not more difficult.

31 posted on 09/11/2022 3:13:35 PM PDT by Kazan
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Blitzkrieg, interesting choice of word.


32 posted on 09/11/2022 3:14:12 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Ping. A penny for your thoughts.


40 posted on 09/11/2022 3:32:57 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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Author needs to review what constituted a “blitzkrieg”. I don’t think Ukraine is employing all the necessary components to qualify calling it blitzkrieg.


44 posted on 09/11/2022 3:41:22 PM PDT by damper99
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The Ukrainians are advancing in areas across a river.

If the Russians take out the bridges, the Ukrainian troops may have their supply lines cut.

The Russians seem to be giving up territory too easily.


54 posted on 09/11/2022 5:19:14 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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The naysayers who insist Russia will turn this around may want to consider a few questions.

#1. What Russian forces are available? Russia has not started a general mobilization. They would have to draw forces from positions inside Russia and redeploy them, and then try to integrate them into a confused combat zone.

#2. How fast can they get to Ukraine? Russia does not have Star Trek transporters. They will use planes and trains and that will take time Russia does not have.

#3. How is Russia going to support them? Russia is considered to have a hard upper limit of 180,000 to 200,000 soldiers it can deploy to Ukraine, no more. Everything sent to Ukraine must be supported.

#4. Who is going to lead the Russian response? Russia has no central command. There is a split leadership between Northern and Southern commands. The Russian army has no NCO corps and limits initiative by lower ranking officers. The Russian command, control and leadership are making the rout worse for them right now.

#5. What is the plan that is supposed to come together? For Russia to turn this around would be a miracle of military science. No one has stated what that is or any part of it yet.

For all the talk of Russia will turn this around no one has a clue how it is even possible, including the Russian army.

57 posted on 09/11/2022 6:16:10 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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And 10 minutes after this article is posted, 50% of ukrainian power generation is destroyed. Enjoy the on coming winter.


59 posted on 09/11/2022 6:32:18 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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The Ukranians only won one of their counter offensives, and only because the Russians decided to leave the area to concentrate their forces elsewhere to the South.

The entire article is propaganda.

-SB


64 posted on 09/11/2022 6:55:50 PM PDT by Snowybear ( )
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