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To: SpeedyInTexas
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/ukraine-loses-soldiers-europe-its-economies-all-for-no-gain.html#more

More than 3,000 Ukrainians have died by now in the Kherson offensive without having made any significant progress. Hundreds of tanks and armored vehicles were lost. A dozen Ukrainian planes and helicopters have been shot down. All the material had come from the 'west' which has now emptied its stock of Soviet weapons. No more will be coming anytime soon.

The Ukraine thereby blew its chance to hold a line against any significant new moves from the Russia side. Those moves will be coming.

But what really bothers me is the human toll of this offensive.

I have never been at war. But I have had a decent full time military officer training over several years plus several month long reserve stints in active duty battalions. I have read lots of books and watched dozens of movies about frontline fighting in World War I, II, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc. If one reflects on those events and the details described in the depictions one gets a 'feel' for such conflicts. Then there is the operational math like the numbers of artillery rounds fired per square kilometer, troop density and the toll such artillery bombardments will inevitably take.

The Ukrainian soldiers never had a chance to withstand the might of the Russian military. None whatsoever. That was recognizable from the very onset of the war. That the Ukrainian government and its backers tried to withstand the onslaught was illogical.

20 posted on 09/08/2022 7:42:14 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Kazan is the name of a city in RuZZia.

Is that where you live?

Dirty RuZZian.


26 posted on 09/08/2022 7:47:52 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: Kazan

You keep posting the same crap from moon over Alabama.

That site doesn’t acknowledge ANY of the Russian setbacks and still talks about Russians marching triumphantly into Kiev, so it seems like a propaganda site.

Kherson Oblast is effectively cut off from mother Russia. Things aren’t looking good for Russia on the Northwest bank of the Dnipr.

Objectively. With no spin. Anyone who says different is lying to you.


31 posted on 09/08/2022 8:03:27 AM PDT by UNGN
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To: Kazan

“The Ukrainian soldiers never had a chance to withstand the might of the Russian military”

Fortunately, it is just a tiny fraction of what the Nazis sent against the Ukraine, and this time the Ukraine has much greater International support.

Yesterday was the deadliest day of the war for Russia - so far.

Russian forces are in retreat, if not collapse.

Apparently, Ukrainian soldiers must have had a chance, because they have done it.


39 posted on 09/08/2022 8:31:49 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Kazan

“The Ukrainian soldiers never had a chance to withstand the might of the Russian military. None whatsoever. That was recognizable from the very onset of the war. That the Ukrainian government and its backers tried to withstand the onslaught was illogical.”

Yet here we are today and the Ukrainians are advancing along several fronts. In some places they’re advancing utterly unopposed as the Russians withdraw/flee.

Kherson will soon be in Ukrainian hands again as the Russian supply and reinforcement lines are severed. Hopefully Putin will let his forces in Kherson withdraw instead of forcing them to fight to the last man or be taken prisoner.


58 posted on 09/08/2022 9:28:32 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: Kazan

If the Ukrainians didn’t have a chance against Putin’s army, then how come Putin’s army retreated from north of Kyiv and is now retreating from the north east?


190 posted on 09/10/2022 7:57:08 AM PDT by Cronos
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