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Ammo Companies Say Packages Shipped With UPS Mysteriously Go “Missing”
Your News ^ | Aug 2, 2022 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/03/2022 9:00:33 AM PDT by Heartlander

Ammo Companies Say Packages Shipped With UPS Mysteriously Go “Missing”

Bearing Arms reported several firearm-related companies had their corporate accounts canceled by UPS.

Not only that, but some of these companies also have had packages damaged or lost while in transit to customers.

One ammunition distribution company called “The Gun Food” reported out of a recent 18,000 rounds of ammunition shipped with UPS, only 6,000 made it to the end destination.

Collins, who owns the ammo company, remains suspicious that many packages he shipped via UPS have been damaged or lost. He said UPS had pinned the mishaps on his company for not correctly packaging the shipments. The carrier also said he had recently filed many claims on packages not getting delivered.

“They’re not even making it. And I don’t know what they are doing in the facilities, if they are purposefully damaging them. However, they are not making it to the customer. Now for every batch that does ship, we actually ship everything insured. And usually, depending on the quantity or the value of the shipment, we’ll ship it with some type of signature required. So it’s funny when they try to say, ‘well, you know, you put in too many claims.’ And it’s like, ‘well, no, I didn’t put in too many claims. Well, our customer never received their package that we had shipped,’”Collins.

Bearing Arms pointed out that Lee Williams over at the Gun Writer Substack, AmmoLand News, and the Second Amendment Foundation Investigative Journalism Project has also covered this phenomenon of firearm-related companies having problems with UPS.

It’s hard to say if this growing trend is an approach by the Biden administration to use corporations as a weapon to cause as much havoc as possible for gun companies or if there were UPS drivers stealing packages. Over the years, there have been numerous reports of UPS drivers stealing whole shipments of guns (read: here & here).

“In the investigation from the shipping aspect, we actually got involved with a couple of other folks that say that here in the Greater Atlanta area, where my business is based out of, we’ve ran into issues where people have not received their ammo. And we noticed it on both ends. I believe one of my distributors has actually lost over $200,000 worth of ammunition that just wound up missing,” Collins said.

Collins said his company’s new shipping policy would provide UPS with a “picture of how the box is packaged, as well as the actual box on the conveyor belt when the courier service scans it. So they really don’t have a foot to stand on when it comes to ‘did this package make it to the customer?’ ‘No.’ ‘And did the package get dropped off?’ ‘Yes.’ So you can’t really deny that.”

He said as threats to the Second Amendment broadened under the Biden administration, “you have to be very leery of the companies that you do business with, even on a personal level.”


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; bidenvoters; fedex; iylm; shipping; thegunfood; ups; usps
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To: Cold Heart

Before 1968, you could order firearms through the mail and have them shipped Railway Express. Each package had a big red marker on it yelling “FIREARMS!” to the criminal world.

Many of those packages disappeared in transit.

I was lucky. I got my firearm. But the cost of railway express shipping was more than the firearm cost!


41 posted on 08/03/2022 9:50:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms.” – Aristotl)
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To: Heartlander

It could be the UPS driver.

About 25 miles from me, a UPS driver delivered guns to a gun store on a regular basis. The driver and his brothas came back after hours and killed and robbed him.


42 posted on 08/03/2022 10:05:41 AM PDT by caver
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To: packagingguy

“In packaging class we learned FedEx has a package loss rate of 0.1%-0.2%. The professor who taught the class worked for FedEx.”

****

I’ve been to one of the Fedex hubs in L.A.. Just to get in the actual operations floor EVERYONE has to remove their shoes and show their pockets/SHOES to security IN and OUT. Theft is almost non-existent UNLESS management or the driver intentionally removes packages.


43 posted on 08/03/2022 10:07:03 AM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: montag813

Sixty pounds of calcium tablets in a small box, with a “Type C” explosive warning on it?


44 posted on 08/03/2022 10:10:54 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: carriage_hill
So far, I’ve not had any UPS delivery problems.

I have received multiple shipments of ammunition via UPS without problems in the past year.

Lucky me. I am all stocked up for now.

There is no doubt in my mind that theft and vandalism of such packages is greatly on the increase. And Leftists in Government approve and encourage such things.

Get the insured shipment option if that is available. Insurance companies have enough clout to force detection and prosecution of the criminals in order to protect their profits.

45 posted on 08/03/2022 10:24:05 AM PDT by flamberge (Those who pose the greatest danger to you are living within five miles of you.)
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To: Heartlander

I’m completely soured on UPS. Over the last couple of years, I’ve sold an Audio Research CD5 and a DSI200 integrated amp. In both cases, the items arrived damaged, which caused me no end of trouble. The amp was handled so roughly that the power supply transformer was partially dislodged and the chassis was actually slightly warped. The CD5 arrived with one of the balanced output channels inop. Takes a lot of very rough handling to do that. Took a loss on both units as they went back to ARC for repairs and refit. UPS denied all responsibilities. So they definitely browned me.


46 posted on 08/03/2022 10:26:24 AM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: montag813

+1


47 posted on 08/03/2022 10:28:35 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Heartlander

bmp


48 posted on 08/03/2022 10:57:40 AM PDT by gattaca
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To: Heartlander

bmp


49 posted on 08/03/2022 10:57:40 AM PDT by gattaca
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To: Heartlander

UPS had announced that they would destroy any gun related packages — weeks ago. Why is anyone doing business with them on anything?

Boycott them. Entirely.


50 posted on 08/03/2022 11:00:11 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Heartlander
UPS drivers stealing packages.

Bingo.

51 posted on 08/03/2022 11:01:27 AM PDT by usurper
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To: Heartlander

What they can and should do is take a page from this guy who pranks porch pirates.

The ammo companies can do the same thing, place a GPS device and cameras inside their packages, send them via UPS, and find out what’s happening to their packages.

EXPLODING Glitter Bomb 4.0 vs. Package Thieves

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3c584TGG7jQ


52 posted on 08/03/2022 11:43:51 AM PDT by lowbridge ( )
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To: Noumenon

You gotta figure, most of the package handlers on average are of the younger generation. And it appears they do not have the same work ethic as us near old and oldtimers do. I will say I know somebody that works at UPS and they say you are just a number anymore.


53 posted on 08/03/2022 11:46:41 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Heartlander
Just checked and my source says it hasn't been a problem for them.

On a sidenote, much of the Remanufactured ammo seems to be a bit dirty.

Now that we're past the scarcity and prices are down, I will only buy New!

My preferred CCW weapon is a bit involved to take down to the level needed to get the grit out on a frequent basis.

54 posted on 08/03/2022 12:01:27 PM PDT by G Larry (Anybody notice that Satan is hard at work?)
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To: DannyTN

The black and white diamond label is required on all ammo shipments.


55 posted on 08/03/2022 12:05:11 PM PDT by G Larry (Anybody notice that Satan is hard at work?)
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To: gundog
But the package needs to be “damaged” to see what caliber is inside.

BINGO!
56 posted on 08/03/2022 12:11:34 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: montag813

They need to rename their distribution companies and warehouses to “GoodLife Nutrition” or something, so UPS doesn’t know it is ammo

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The weight of the boxes might give it away.


57 posted on 08/03/2022 12:15:22 PM PDT by just Grace
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To: carriage_hill

We’ve had delivery problems which were always resolved- they would leave our packages at the wrong address. Either the person who it was delivered to sought us out (it was around the corner) or, I would have to go hunt it down myself. Just last week they left one two doors down.
I just ordered ammo last night, the supplier took my money and issued an order number. No tracking number yet.
Back in the 90’s, I worked part time for UPS as an overnight loader for airplane cans, and on Saturdays, a group of us loaded semi-trailers. Security was pretty tight, we went thru metal detectors and a big turnstile when we exited our shift.
I saw some pretty bad package handling by a few people, but to the best of my knowledge, there was no theft.
Ammo is shipped UPS ground. I’ve got 250 rds of .38sp coming and I’m gonna be really pissed if it gets “lost”.


58 posted on 08/03/2022 12:18:04 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: Brian Griffin

Yes, they are tracked, the bar code is scanned so there is a record it was at that location, and every other location it is supposed to be at. It is scanned when it goes on the truck, and it is scanned when it delivered. There have to be some sticky fingers involved in the disappearances, for monetary gain, or even political ideological reasons. I wouldn’t put it past some of those Teamsters. They’re capable of anything.


59 posted on 08/03/2022 12:26:13 PM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: max americana

[[Yup. Simply open a private mailbox service location, and label it “Clinton Sex Toys Company”. They wont touch it..]]
Ammo is listed as “hazardous materials”. If you don’t label it properly, then you are in trouble.

https://www.ups.com/us/en/support/shipping-support/shipping-special-care-regulated-items/hazardous-materials-guide/how-to-ship-ammunition.page


60 posted on 08/03/2022 12:31:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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