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To: SeafoodGumbo

Well I guess everyone’s experiences are different. Wife and I are seniors and among our senior citizen friends, don’t know a single person that has had problems with the covid vaccine. Know several that have had issues from covid including one that died in mid 2020 from covid.

YMMV of course. I don’t care whether anyone gets the vaccine shot, wears a mask, or whatever, up to the individual.

I do know that there have been over 600 million covid vaccine shots given in the U.S. and that about 5 out of 6 persons over the age of 5 in the U.S. have had at least one shot. If the horror stories with the vaccine were true it seems like we’d have bodies piled up in the streets, but things ticking along normally up here in N.Ga.


5 posted on 07/31/2022 4:16:05 PM PDT by Roadrunner383 (;)
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To: Roadrunner383

The media and social media are suppressing the stories about vaccine injuries, the same way they wouldn’t allow stories about theraputics (HCQ, Ivermectin, etc.) that could have saved countless lives. The scale of the problem is hard to tell, but the numbers in VAERS and the continuing revelations from the released Pfizer documents (that they wanted to not release for 75 years) are showing serious problems with the “vaccine” which they literally changed the definition of to include the experimental gene therapy.


7 posted on 07/31/2022 4:20:52 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: Roadrunner383
One other point is that maybe the damage will accrue with time, or maybe the damage isn't enough to kill someone, but their immune system or their cardiac system is now half as good and they're susceptible to things they otherwise wouldn't have been.

There's many people I love who have taken the Pfizer jabs, so I won't have a "told ya so" glee as these bad reports come out.

8 posted on 07/31/2022 4:23:56 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: Roadrunner383

You misunderstand statistics. Your anecdotal experience of your own circle is irrelevant. Tens of thousands have been reported dead and injured by these vaccines. That’s not normal for any medication and certainly not for vaccines. Sure millions are fine - or APPEAR fine, since no long term studies have been done. That doesn’t make the vaccines safe. Medications have been pulled from the market for far, far fewer deaths and injuries.

The very first person in my circle to get vaccinated quickly developed atrial fibrillation out of nowhere. See how my anecdotal experience can trump yours? That kind of argumentation takes us nowhere. Data is what is needed. Sure someone could also die of covid and maybe the vaccine would have saved them. It’s an individual gradient of risk vs protection.


17 posted on 07/31/2022 4:45:22 PM PDT by libertarian66
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To: Roadrunner383

do they know what the long term effects are?

i know pfizer owes fda 2 studies in 2023 and one in 2025 per the approval

seems like they are still working on that


26 posted on 07/31/2022 5:32:12 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: Roadrunner383

The bodies are piling up, as shown in the life insurer’s actuarials.


27 posted on 07/31/2022 5:34:44 PM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: SeafoodGumbo; Roadrunner383

relative newbie and a senior, too, huh? you may be legit, in which case i apologize for calling you a possible pro-jab troll, but i’ve heard these subtle, leftist, totalitarian arguments from pro-jabbers too many times to let them pass unanswered: that is, argument subtly pro-jab, but from an i’m not a pro-jabber, because i don’t care what anyone does, everyone’s free to do what they want, that “everyone’s experiences are, different” yada, yada. but it’s a lie and an unjust, anti-Christian argument on it’s face. it even worked for a while here, but it doesn’t fly on FR anymore.

first of all mr senior, i read your comment carefully: you didn’t actually say if you got the jab, and then you said you don’t care who got the jab. i infer from that statement you’re either a heartless troll or completely ignorant of the holocaust that this jab is causing on, say, American millenials who have lost 63M excess deaths in the last quarter of 2021. really, ‘don’’t care’ do you?

you then drop that none of your ‘friends’ died from the jab but ‘one died of covid.’ that was a common argument here too for the pro-jabbers. well first it’s anecdotal, and so meaningless from a statistical point of view except as a few out of context data points. but, if you don’t care, why are you arguing. because you did care about your friend? i’ve got a bunch of anecdotes too.

you breezily intone that every experience is different. well that’s a error too. every experience tragically is NOT different when it comes to the jab. for sure, a majority of the 63M excess deaths amount young, healthy milleninals was due to the jab. no other way explain that (ask the insurance companies).

and on one hand, your ‘story’ is similar to the story of M’s of Americans who got talked or coerced into the jab and haven’t experienced an adverse effect...yet. that’s what you and the media relies on to keep your heads buried about this public health holocaust. but, since it’s experimental and pfizer and the other big pharma criminal enterprises in bed with the CCP and our FDA/CDC who fudged and hid the little clinical and animal data they gathered in 2020, you don’t know what’s going to happen to you in the next 10-12 years (the normal testing period for a new vaccine). you could have sub-clinical myocarditis right now **if you took the jab (you didn’t really say did you?) and not feel a thing until the situation arises where it manifests (but of course you haven’t heard of all the sudden deaths among young athletes or even mature joggers).

your breezy claim also fails on it’s face with the many healthy, young people and children who got documented myocarditis and pericarditis from the jab. they are tragically a group of people who’s experiences are now very much the SAME in terms of having permanent damage to their hearts.

it is a fact (according to some very big insurance companies who are having to pay out, and some other very trustworthy numbers men i follow) that the natural (statistical odds) of dying from the vaccine is larger than the risk of the CCP Virus, say in children under 5. so you’d be an idiot if you got toddler jabbed, even if the odds of an adverse event are very low overall in that age class.

the same goes for anyone up to age 45 when you add in the short-term serious adverse effects from the CCP/Big Pharma spiked, toxic jab (that we currently know about) which run in the 1K-2K jabs per serious adverse event or death. your chance of the virus being no more than a mere cold to you are in that range too, and the natural immunity is far better and much longer lasting than the toxic jab’s.

to address your final, ‘statistical,’ argument: ‘that most everybody’s getting it and the vast majority of them are ok so...’ which also doesn’t fly either (there are a lot of us unjabbed who have had the CCP virus/bioweapon, and who are doin’ fine, better than the jabbed in fact based on the numbers who are being hospitalized for the virus [see below]). so according to the CDC which likes to lie statistically on the low side about everything coof related, 72 M have never got the shot, (and ~150M stopped after 1 or 2 shots with good reason), so 5*72 M == 360M which is more than the population of the US (about 320M), so bud you got a big problem with your 5/6 claim, too.


35 posted on 07/31/2022 6:37:40 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Roadrunner383

“If the horror stores were true...”

Well, I am one of those horror stories. Still suffering after 17 months now. I would have been one of the dead ones if I had not pursued treatment. At that time all the doctors were in denial there was a problem. Talked to a cardiac doctor recently and he is treating a lot of vaxxine damaged hearts.

We have had one covid death in my church family and 3 and probably more vaxxine deaths. A number of cases where cancer in remission have gone full active after the vaxxine.

A number of Health Experts at CDC, NIH, FDA have recently resigned, at the same time, in protest because the decrees coming out of those agencies were political.

We didn’t see that one splattered all over the news did we?


41 posted on 07/31/2022 7:17:29 PM PDT by Cold Heart (Save The Grid, Phase Out EV's)
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To: Roadrunner383

I got the two shots in January and February 2021. My left arm hurt for six months. I was fatigued, all the time, and before the shots, I was energetic and went to the gym often. Some days I could hardly get up. I experienced brain fog. By coincidence, I had a heart checkup (treadmill, EKG) in November 2019, before the pandemic, so I had a baseline to measure against. Now I have right bundle branch block problem. Interestingly, I had the same symptoms with the shot as I did when I got the disease this February, although not for as long.

In our village, practically everyone has gotten at least two shots. Six deaths followed among the 500+ people here in town, all from heart failure.


45 posted on 07/31/2022 10:13:39 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: Roadrunner383

Well I guess everyone’s experiences are different. Wife and I are seniors and among our senior citizen friends, don’t know a single person that has had problems with the covid vaccine. Know several that have had issues from covid including one that died in mid 2020 from covid.

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58 posted on 08/02/2022 4:04:16 PM PDT by Freedom56v2
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