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To: Steve Van Doorn
There's an interesting 2020 case in Michigan involving both Republicans AND Democrats.

The Republican stronghold [there are actually a few big-city Republican strongholds scattered across the country - Michigan is unusual in having TWO of them] of Kent County [Pete Meijer/Justin Amash] flipped to Biden in 2020, with a big "turnout" for Joe and The Ho.

The neighboring conservative county of Ottawa also "turned out" big for Biden, and a conservative county just south of these two counties showed a big Biden "turnout".

Here's the interesting part:

There's a Democrat stronghold next to these counties - Muskegon city and Muskegon County. Historically, this was a big area for blacks from Chicago to have summer homes a short drive away, and a place to get away from bigotry found in other places [in the old days].

Turned out BIG for Obama in 2008.

Biden 2020? Not so much.

Trump almost won the county. I believe that the difference was that Muskegon wasn't on the rounds of the ballot mules [outside the one-hour driving radius of the central command-and-control county Kent] - and the Michigan Democrats and their Assistant Democrat pals the Republicans had the Trump problem covered elsewhere.

                                                                                                           P     Obama   Biden                
                                                                                                           O     minus   div                                
 2008	         Obama	         McCain	 2008 total   2020            Biden           Trump    2020 total  P	 Biden	 Obama
Kent	  49%	149,909	  49%	148,336	  303,235    Kent	52%  187,915	46%  165,741	362,031	   4	-38,006	 125%
Ottawa	  37%	 50,828	  61%	 83,330	  136,268    Ottawa	38%   64,705	60%  100,913	168,713	   7	-13,877	 127%
Allegan	  44%	 24,165	  54%	 30,061	   55,279    Allegan	36%   24,449	62%   41,392	 67,195	  18	   -284	 101%

Muskegon  64%	 53,821	  35%	 29,145	   84,271    Muskegon	49%   45,643	49%   45,133	 92,444	  12	  8,178	  85%
You'll notice that Muskegon violates the "population" rule - pump up the vote in the more populated counties.

They were working on Kent, and had to choose between Ottawa and Muskegon counties.

Ottawa is more populous by far, and I think they might have scooped up Allegan on the way back. Allegan was probably good for 2,000-2,500 "votes"

26 posted on 06/26/2022 9:20:48 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil
To be clear. The turn out in Kent Michigan saying:
2008 2020
303,235 362,031


Total number of voters in Kent 2008 420,721
and 498,832 in 2020

303,235/ 420,721
362,031/498,832
Wife calling... sorry... I will calculate
Found here:
https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Project/Websites/sos/02lehman/County_Total_Voters.pdf?rev=dc1b66066f9347fca595ad1323a81ebc
https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Project/Websites/sos/01mcalpine/2020_Registered_Voter_Count.pdf?rev=558139ab2288430fb35a39e04f8fd683
28 posted on 06/26/2022 10:33:10 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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