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UK Govt Threatens to Ban Twitter And Potentially Jail Elon Musk If He Allows Free Speech
http://www.informationliberation.com ^ | April 27, 2022 | Chris Menahan

Posted on 04/27/2022 11:58:42 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

LOL! UK isn’t even a legit country as an entity anymore, they’ve given most of it away, and they’re going to do what? lol.


61 posted on 04/27/2022 1:24:12 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Chickensoup

Western Canada is standing, and will keep doing so. We’re in the same boat, a fight for our very futures.

But hey! Ukraine!


62 posted on 04/27/2022 1:24:52 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: pnz1
Didn’t Biden just set up a DHS board to watch against “disinformation?”

Maybe. I try not to pay any attention to what that corrupt idiot puppet does. I consider him a fake president and none of his acts are legally valid in my opinion.

But do not doubt the government will levy a heavy hand on "private" corporations to force them to censor who the government wants censored.

In this direction lies fascism.

63 posted on 04/27/2022 1:27:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Red Badger

“All tech firms with users in the U.K....”

Ok, easy solution then, just ban all accounts from the UK and carry on.


64 posted on 04/27/2022 1:29:39 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DoughtyOne

“Isn’t it Hyde Park in the UK where folks used to bring a box, stand on it and give their opinions in public?”

Still there, and people still do it, though I believe a Christian preacher got arrested there a few years ago for daring to quote Bible verses within earshot of a queer.


65 posted on 04/27/2022 1:31:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Red Badger

Musk should just give the EU the middle finger and let them deal with twitter disappearing for the unwashed masses.


66 posted on 04/27/2022 1:31:44 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Use cash as much as possible, avoid cashless businesses)
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To: Red Badger

Musk should just give the EU the middle finger and let them deal with twitter disappearing for the unwashed masses.


67 posted on 04/27/2022 1:31:54 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Use cash as much as possible, avoid cashless businesses)
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To: riverdawg
I understand your concern but, to address the specific issue here, private media companies have always controlled “speech” on their platforms.

AT&T does not control speech on their platforms. Neither does Verizon or any of the other "carriers".

That we've tolerated allowing digital text censorship by other carriers is stupidity on our part.

I can envision Congress trying to intervene to ban so-called “hate speech” on Twitter and similar platforms if the platforms don’t do it themselves.

You think *that* wouldn't come afoul of the First Amendment? You think the Supreme Court would uphold that?

I don't see it. Right now, the grave threat we face is that public speech is banned on many mass communications infrastructure, and we need to force them to follow the same rule as Telephone companies.

68 posted on 04/27/2022 1:32:23 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Boogieman

Thanks, and wouldn’t doubt it.


69 posted on 04/27/2022 1:32:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
All of these companies are the equivalent of telephone companies.

They have no right to control content. They are carriers of speech

Like hell they are. Just because it would make your argument work better doesn't make it so.

The FCC has some power to regulate the phone companies because they're using public infrastructure or publicly-owned spectrum. There are dozens of communications companies that aren't regulated at all - Skype, Viber, WhatsAp - none of the internet based ones are.

Your fever dream of the FCC regulating Facebook is just that.

But no one has a Constitutional right to post on Twitter.

When it has millions of users, *YES* they do. It is defacto public communications infrastructure.

You're confused. We have the Constitutional right to speak freely without the government interfering.

We don't have the Constitutional right to appropriate others' private property to broadcast that speech. You have the right to speak, not the right to be listened to.

Besides, any right we have to use a phone service comes from the licenses the government granted to the carriers or from the regulation imposed by the government, it doesn't come from the first amendment.

70 posted on 04/27/2022 1:32:56 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: DiogenesLamp
Once again, a *deliberate* misstatement of what I've said.

Not at all.

You can't with a straight face deny that when the government says "you must use your platform to publish whatever someone sends you, even when it isn't in the interest of you, your users or your shareholders", they are controlling your speech.

71 posted on 04/27/2022 1:37:22 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
Like hell they are. Just because it would make your argument work better doesn't make it so.

It is *SO* because it absolutely must be so. To do otherwise is to destroy everything. We will have fascism.

The FCC has some power to regulate the phone companies because they're using public infrastructure or publicly-owned spectrum.

And is not the internet "interstate infrastructure"? Was it also not built on a public system?

You're confused. We have the Constitutional right to speak freely without the government interfering.

We have a right to speak freely without anyone interfering.

Besides, any right we have to use a phone service comes from the licenses the government granted to the carriers or from the regulation imposed by the government, it doesn't come from the first amendment.

Oh, it comes from the first amendment alright, and if we have to license all massive communications companies using the American built internet, well then that's just a bit of discomfort that i'm perfectly willing to endure.

I don't like them anyway. Too much money is being made without actually producing anything useful. They are another parasite class eating away the sustenance of the producers.

72 posted on 04/27/2022 1:39:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: semimojo
You can't with a straight face deny that when the government says "you must use your platform to publish whatever someone sends you, even when it isn't in the interest of you, your users or your shareholders", they are controlling your speech.

I cannot say it because it is garbage.

My position is simple. You don't want to allow speech? You can't be in the communications business.

And I note you say "publish". They aren't "publishers", they are "carriers."

73 posted on 04/27/2022 1:42:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Red Badger

It should be easy enough to limit what tweets UK members can see and post to. The USA doesn’t need to hear from the socialists anyhow.


74 posted on 04/27/2022 1:49:47 PM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
My position is simple. You don't want to allow speech? You can't be in the communications business.

Well, unless you’re under a million users or you’re a club or you’re a special purpose forum or you’re a newspaper or a magazine or a TV network or DL has thought up some other exemption of convenience for you.

75 posted on 04/27/2022 1:54:36 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Red Badger

Funny how the left has adopted “1984” as their core governing philosophy.


76 posted on 04/27/2022 2:09:07 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: semimojo
There you go with that spam again.

If you are a multi-million user communications system, you can't censor speech.

See? Much simpler.

77 posted on 04/27/2022 2:09:10 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Red Badger

I believe the LaRouche Group is correct in their assessment of the UK, i.e. that it is the only natural adversary and enemy for the United States that actually exists on the planet.


78 posted on 04/27/2022 2:12:26 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: Red Badger
"a U.K. government spokesperson"

Could be some low level bureaucrat or a woke LGBTQ member of parliament
79 posted on 04/27/2022 2:15:38 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: Red Badger

The UK has always had just a hint of fascism; sometimes it bubbles up.


80 posted on 04/27/2022 2:15:44 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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