Posted on 03/06/2022 9:00:49 AM PST by blam
Polish Air Force MiG-29
Ukraine’s President Zelensky has been urging the United States and NATO countries that his military desperately needs more fighter jets to take on the Russian invasion force, on Friday telling US lawmakers in a Zoom call “close the skies or give us planes” – according to a Congressional leader present for the address.
Apparently the Biden administration is busy working on just that, also at a moment Congress is still prepping a whopping $10 billion military and humanitarian aide package for Ukraine. The new aircraft deal would involve transferring Russian-made warplanes to Kiev from neighboring Poland, according to a new report in FT.
To expedite the deal – given the battlefield situation and Ukraine’s ability to defend itself depends largely on the speediness of getting sufficient arms – Washington would quickly replace Warsaw’s MiG-29 jets with F-16 fighters.
However, a White House official was quoted in the FT report as admitting the deal could be held up by “a number of challenging practical questions, including how the planes could actually be transferred from Poland to Ukraine.”
Further there’s the question of recent threat’s by Vladimir Putin himself against any country seeking to pour more weapons into the hands of the Ukrainian forces. Putin days ago issued a veiled threat of war against any country supplying weapons that are use to kill Russian soldiers, saying those outside nations would “bear the responsibility”.
A White House spokesperson had confirmed to FT that “We are also working on the capabilities we could provide to backfill Poland if it decided to transfer planes to Ukraine.” And previously Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the US is “very actively” looking at resupplying Poland if it can quickly transfer its own Russian-made aircraft to Ukraine.
“We are looking actively now at the question of airplanes that Poland may provide to Ukraine and looking at how we might be able to backfill should Poland decide to supply those planes,” Blinken said in Moldova, while on a trip that highlighted the growing refugee crisis from the war.
Crucially, there was this statement from an unnamed Polish official given to FT: “I can’t speak to a timeline but I can just say we’re looking at it very, very actively.” The official said further, “Poland is not in a state of war with Russia, but it is not an impartial country, because it supports Ukraine as the victim of aggression. It considers, however, that all military matters must be a decision of Nato as a whole.”
On Saturday, perhaps nervous about coming into Russia’s crosshairs amid the flurry of reporting, Poland’s government batted down the reports as “fake news” – saying there’s been no transfer of its aircraft to Ukraine nor does it intend to…
‼️FAKE NEWS‼️ Unfortunately you are spreading misinformation with quotation from 27/02/22.
Poland won’t send its fighter jets to #Ukraine as well as allow to use its airports. We significantly help in many other areas.https://t.co/wjNOgh97JT
— Chancellery of the Prime Minister of Poland (@PremierRP_en) March 6, 2022
If Putin wins, I hope he releases every scrap of info about Hunter in Ukraine
Other powers have their own interests which can drag other in even if they weren't planning on it.
My guess is that if the Ukrainians continue to resist, Putin will escalate until NATO or the US intervenes, because he can't make concessions to Ukraine, it's too humiliating. But he can make a deal with NATO or the US.
Poland already has some F-16s. Probably not the newest models though.
A few crazy powerful people in the World hate that we want to just enjoy our lives
Let me guess:
The Biden Admin vetoes Polish transfers of their jets to the Ukraine, because it reduces Poland’s contribution to NATO’s force structure.
But they offer to sell Poland much more expensive replacements to allow it, with 10% for the big guy. A huge bill.
“Nonsense. Any attack is fair game for Article 5 to be invoked.”
At this point, Putin would be HAPPY to see Article 5 be invoked. Europeans, probably not so much.
“Russia has been sending weapons and arms to those killing Americans soldiers for decades.”
You got that right!
The most egregious example is Vietnam. After the fall of Saddam the Iranians were helping insurgents procure modern Russian anti armor weapons.
“Putin is at it again, trying to influence our elections. So, that being the case, we’re not going to play his game, and are refusing to give any airtime/print space to these unfounded allegations”.
case closed.
Even if he does, nothing will come of it. Even if the Press reports it, their reaction will be, "What? You're gonna believe Putin?"
I believe Poland over Biden.
I believe Iran over Biden or North Korea over Biden.
That’s a great way to encourage Russian to take Lviv and keep moving into Poland - bringing NATO into the fray.
Poland would meet them in Lviv.
Which introduces the scenario: “Ukraine presses for terms by offering up info on all $$ laundering on behalf of all globalists in world — how would you like to OWN every influencer?”
Why refuse? Couple that with records of slaves transferred from Ukraine to Epstein’s island.
Nah.
This is part of the Putin is nuts crowd...who are particularly dangerous.
Putin is many negative things, but crazy/nuts isn’t one of them.
I always consider what I would do if I was in the other guy’s shoes, with a similar mindset.
I just don’t see Putin coming out the other side of a first strike nuclear exchange looking good to anyone. Putin’s cost/benefit analysis probably tells him the same thing. High risk and low reward.
I believe the boneyard has a plethora of F16s waiting to move out of mothballs.
Not a good idea at all. First off Blinken should never have mentioned NATO membership for Ukraine. This just up’s the ante. Let’s you and him fight has always been the military industrial complexes go to supported by the Never Trump wing of the republican party and of course Soros democrats who think they run the world.
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