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UK Government data suggests the Fully Vaccinated Elderly & Vulnerable have developed AIDS and the young are not far behind them
The Expose' ^ | February 12, 2022 | The Expose'

Posted on 02/12/2022 6:38:50 PM PST by Wish2Post

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To: ransomnote

“In spite of articles like these...”


The Expose’ usually does better. This one is perhaps the worst I’ve seen. Horribly written and zero supporting data for their one-liner claim of AIDS.

I have 3 high risk coworkers: 2 cancer patients and one organ transplant. If there is any merit to the claim, it should become evident in the coming months.

I also work with a hospital; the information provided to me does not support the overgeneralization of AIDS...yet...and I fail to see it in the provided UK data.

My takeaway, ironically, was written yesterday as an addition to my extensive ‘manifesto’:

“The evidence overwhelmingly supports the observation that the unvaccinated are reaching herd immunity, while the ‘vaccines’ are inhibiting herd immunity among the ‘vaccinated.”


81 posted on 02/12/2022 8:54:22 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Wish2Post; Sacajaweau; ifinnegan; gas_dr; Renfrew

There is one very important piece of data missing - the vaccination rate of the population in question.

Without that number you can’t come up with any meaningful conclusion.

So what is the vaccination rate, especially for the elderly?


82 posted on 02/12/2022 10:09:12 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Renfrew

“Odd how anti-vaxxers never answer the simple question. Do more people die with or without the vaccine?

UK Deaths per 100K by vaccines status:

* Unvaccinated - 462.2
* Vaccinated - 50.5
* Boosted - 24.5”

Yep, that’s the data I was looking for. It’s the one that matters. If correct, you’re about 10 times more likely to die if you’re not vaxed than if you’re vaxed.

But the likelyhood you’ll die is pretty small in either case. The survivability rate according to that data is 99.5% if you’re unvaxed vs 99.95% if you are.


83 posted on 02/12/2022 10:21:11 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Wish2Post

This is not a credible source.


84 posted on 02/12/2022 10:56:13 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Old Grumpy

Yes I also have concern for my brother and his wife who got these shots. Both in their 70’s. ...I’ve refused to get these shots as I had the mind of waiting to see because they didn’t know if they would work or not, Im convinced now they don’t work....otherwise why are they insisting on one shot after another and another....evidencing they aren’t working.


85 posted on 02/13/2022 12:15:51 AM PST by caww ( )
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To: Jeff Chandler

Jeff...I’ve listened to well established and noted immunologists say the spike proteins are affecting ones own immune system unfavorably. Even saying if you have cancer this spike protein will cause the cancer sells to multiply....as well heart issues and blood issues.


86 posted on 02/13/2022 12:20:02 AM PST by caww ( )
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I have been checking obits regularly and have not seen an jump in your people obituaries. The boomers are dying off. But that is to be expected


87 posted on 02/13/2022 12:54:18 AM PST by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Renfrew
And yet, for the United Kingdom....

As of 11 February 2022

( 159,713 UK deaths over almost two years / 67,886,011 people in the UK ) x 100 = 0.235 percent mortality rate for the population over a period of two years and a month.

So as to vax/un-vax arguments, the survivability rate for the UK for this "pandemic" is a mere 99.765%.

88 posted on 02/13/2022 2:41:33 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: All

Re the Oregon raw death stats, the increase in 2020 may not be all due to COVID, if things there are similar to BC Canada, we have had a large increase in overdose deaths due to the fentanyl crisis. That has been increasing by hundreds per year in the last three years.

(drug sellers are putting dangerous amounts of fentanyl into their products to improve their profits, more fentanyl = less heroin or cocaine = more profits = more deaths).

A recent news report here indicates that the overdose death rate is keeping pace with the claimed COVID death rate (about which I have reservations, as it’s deaths with COVID rather than deaths from COVID, but that’s a separate argument).

Would imagine this overdose situation is similar in Pacific coast states.


89 posted on 02/13/2022 3:38:42 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (a cloud has fallen over the lands of the free )
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To: Renfrew
How about this one from Nature? How's that for a pedigree, eh? Looks like something possibly related to this has been seen with influenza vaxxes...

Circulating extracellular vesicle microRNAs associated with adverse reactions, proinflammatory cytokine, and antibody production after COVID-19 vaccination

90 posted on 02/13/2022 3:46:52 AM PST by mewzilla (God bless Canada's Freedom Truckers!)
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To: mewzilla; griswold3

Ping to my reply #90.


91 posted on 02/13/2022 3:47:36 AM PST by mewzilla (God bless Canada's Freedom Truckers!)
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To: gas_dr

anyone who claims to be a licensed medical professional,
then dispenses medical guidance,
should by professional standards present their bona fide

To not do so, rather hide in anonymity tells the readers one of two things;

a-they’re a liar
b-they’re shielding themself against the potential malpractice liability

It’s just the way it is gassy.

We, who read articles...you know...presented by REAL DOCTORS with REAL bona fide laugh at the poseurs.

You’ll get over it.


92 posted on 02/13/2022 3:51:27 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: mewzilla
Meanwhile, for anyone who $52 to spend, this is just published, might make interesting reading...

COVID Vaccination in Athletes and Updated Interim Guidance on the Preparticipation Physical Examination During the SARS-Cov-2 Pandemic

93 posted on 02/13/2022 3:53:49 AM PST by mewzilla (God bless Canada's Freedom Truckers!)
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To: SheepWhisperer

Nice try. Nice deflection. You do not address your blatant violation of the rules. But playing your game then we have people proffering medical advice without credentials.

Please don’t reply to me any further. You are merely a waste of time and demonstrate no rational thought.


94 posted on 02/13/2022 4:47:10 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: Wish2Post; griswold3
Thyrotoxicosis following SARS-COV-2 vaccination: a case series and discussion

Autoimmune/Autoinflammatory Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants (ASIA) is discussed.

95 posted on 02/13/2022 4:58:08 AM PST by mewzilla (God bless Canada's Freedom Truckers!)
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To: gas_dr

i’m not outing anyone. Simply asking a self-proclaimed mystery doctor who is posting medical guidance to help us all be fully informed...this is a reasonable request to anyone who claims a position of such authorty. You obviously have no such position of authority

the deflection is all on you gassy

nice try though

::quack::

..that is all


96 posted on 02/13/2022 5:01:06 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: gas_dr

Just another “hello” from a poster that always appreciates your frank participation.

I know when I had first hand experience in an issue that did not correspond to the latest alleged secret and hidden explanation, I was always criticized so I am pretty sure that your medical issues are the same.


97 posted on 02/13/2022 5:25:02 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: gas_dr

There is some strange, deeply psychological event happening with these people.

I am on another site with about fifty posters who have all gone anti vax. In the past month, two unvaccinated posters have died from Covid, and two others have had severe post Covid isssues, including persistent pneumonia and asthma complications.

And yet they still post the most incredible anti vax news inclduding some latest information about embalmers finding strange blood issues with corpses who had been vaccinated when alive. Although how embalmers would have access to such medical information is not clear. It is almost laughable, if it weren’t so troubling.

We are beyond denial at this point. And it is very disturbing.


98 posted on 02/13/2022 6:00:16 AM PST by MustKnowHistory
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To: SheepWhisperer

Let me make this clear. Please do not correspond to me directly or in private mail any further. Please see forum rules for further clarification.


99 posted on 02/13/2022 6:01:11 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: aquila48

“But the likelyhood you’ll die is pretty small in either case. The survivability rate according to that data is 99.5% if you’re unvaxed vs 99.95% if you are.”

That is a very cogent point. One problem with the anti-vax nonsense is it does a disservice to the actual debate. The “Bill Gates is installing microchips” and “viruses don’t exist” crowd are loud enough to make anyone who questions Covid orthodoxy look like one of a bunch of nutters.

In the UK Covid is killing a couple thousand people a month, most of them already elderly and/or ailing.

Is that worth taking preventative steps? Yes. Is that worth shutting down the entire economy? Absolutely not.


100 posted on 02/13/2022 6:02:58 AM PST by Renfrew
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